Taiji Fighting Tournament 1988

[CaliG]

[Andy_S]

Nice clip. Masich pulled off some very, very clean throws there, damn near textbook.

The lass made a good point about Taiji too: As an exercise, it in interesting. Very different to jogging or aerobices, indeed.

(Waits for joggers and aerobics people to dive in and start pummelling)

[Walk the Torque]

Nice composure from Sam.

[middleway]

isnt this the guy being slammed in that clip of Kumar doing ba gua application?

[Bob Mnemos]

I didn't see any Taiji but there were some really nice silk suits in the vid.

Bob

[waterdaan]

isnt this the guy being slammed in that clip of Kumar doing ba gua application?

yes
really nice silk suits

[Chris Fleming]

The moving push hands on that clip was what I wish it would be like in tournaments nowadays. The last time I saw moving push hands it was nothing more than a sumo match or perhaps a 2 man rugby match. No taiji whatsoever.

[mixjourneyman]

Those throws that Sam did were SWEET!!!!

Too bad he's not teaching fighters these days (though from the looks of it he has way more in his throwing dept than in his striking).

[charles]

Those throws that Sam did were SWEET!!!!

Too bad he's not teaching fighters these days (though from the looks of it he has way more in his throwing dept than in his striking).

He studied judo in his teens, and one of Liang's specialties is SC, hence the throws.

He's never publically taught fighting/fighters - he teaches forms, push hands, qigong, a few applications mostly under the heading of the 2-person form choreography.

[mixjourneyman]

Those throws that Sam did were SWEET!!!!

Too bad he's not teaching fighters these days (though from the looks of it he has way more in his throwing dept than in his striking).

He studied judo in his teens, and one of Liang's specialties is SC, hence the throws.

He's never publically taught fighting/fighters - he teaches forms, push hands, qigong, a few applications mostly under the heading of the 2-person form choreography.

Yeah, thats basically what I had heard around.
Some of my friends and past teachers really like his material, but I've never gone to one of his seminars.
For the most part he seems to be on the post modern taijiquan bandwagon and I don't really dig it.
Nonetheless those throws were pretty great.

[Frank Bellemare]

The moving push hands on that clip was what I wish it would be like in tournaments nowadays. The last time I saw moving push hands it was nothing more than a sumo match or perhaps a 2 man rugby match. No taiji whatsoever.

True it was pretty, and much closer to the cooperative exercice that we learn in class, but were they doing it for demonstration purpose, or as a competition? If they were doing it as a competition, what were the rules, how would the judges determine who won? With the silk PJs and all the soft "listening" and "following" going on, it looked like a cooperative exercice, not a competition.

[charles]

Some of my friends and past teachers really like his material, but I've never gone to one of his seminars.

He has a small loyal following. In a galaxy far, far away, I attended 11 of his seminars. Time, money and effort mostly wasted.

For the most part he seems to be on the post modern taijiquan bandwagon and I don't really dig it.

Nonetheless those throws were pretty great.

They were good.

[Chris Fleming]

The moving push hands on that clip was what I wish it would be like in tournaments nowadays. The last time I saw moving push hands it was nothing more than a sumo match or perhaps a 2 man rugby match. No taiji whatsoever.

True it was pretty, and much closer to the cooperative exercice that we learn in class, but were they doing it for demonstration purpose, or as a competition? If they were doing it as a competition, what were the rules, how would the judges determine who won? With the silk PJs and all the soft "listening" and "following" going on, it looked like a cooperative exercice, not a competition.

Well at some point the two would have to be doing some unbalancing skills when the opportunity presented itself if this was a real match. I'm saying this still should follow taiji principle, rather than linebacker principle or sumo principle.

[CaliG]

What's meant by post-modern taiji?

[shawnsegler]

I think they're trying to say "kind of new-agey".

S