Hung Gar sparring

[jonathan.bluestein]

Very well done in my opinion.

[pennsooner]

Interesting. In boxing, the sparring is much much harder, almost but not quite full out. All the CMA sparring I've seen is about 1/5 or less intensity and speed.

[Wanderingdragon]

, go to a boxing gym and tell the boxers to take off their gloves and head gear and go all or almost all out. The only place you see fighters testing boxing skills like that is in some inner city parks among teenager and adults in idiot mode..

[ashe]

Interesting. In boxing, the sparring is much much harder, almost but not quite full out. All the CMA sparring I've seen is about 1/5 or less intensity and speed.

common beginner misunderstanding, and why working with beginners is always so dangerous. there is a difference between hard sparring for contact and technical sparring for precision of timing and spacing. there's a place for both but for my money the emphasis is always on technical sparring.

[windwalker]

what I look for is foot work and body positioning that is characteristic of
the style.



compare the use of foot work and distance coupled with
body movement and hand usage.



some say CMA wont have the same flavor of what is trained, that somehow CMA looks one way and fights another.
compare the 2 clips. one of fighting the other of training.

[jonathan.bluestein]

windwalker -

Are you aware that the big black Hung Gar guy in the video I put up is the same big black Hung Gar guy in the second video you put up - AKA Don Hamby?

Which in turn indicates that, yes - he does apply what he practices in sparring.

Also, as suggested before, this is technical sparring not hard contact sparring. In that sparring session I put up, they target very dangerous areas and touch them lightly, or go near them.

[windwalker]

only based on the clips, I would say that what he is doing in the first clip is not the same tactics discussed demoed in the 2nd clip.
seems kind of muddy,not really as connected, he doesn't take the space, after he bridges or occupies it.
it seems different. only commenting on what is shown,
dont really care much for the first clip..
others my find different.

[Bao]

there's a place for both but for my money the emphasis is always on technical sparring.

Well put, I feel the same. I know a Hung Gar branch very well and for a period I frequently practiced sparring with them. It was always very technical, sometimes faster, sometimes very slow. They were very good using their Hung Gar techniques.

For this clip I wish they didn't drop the guard so often, but that's the only critique I believe I am qualified to make.

@WW: if you knew the art and style very well, the techniques would be much more visible. I see Hung Gar very clearly in the sparring clip.

[jonathan.bluestein]

@WW: if you knew the art and style very well, the techniques would be much more visible. I see Hung Gar very clearly in the sparring clip.

Not only that - I think they also diversified a lot. Every few seconds they would try a new thing. When they began they seemed to have already been somewhat tired, probably from previous practice, and then they also carried on for over 6 minutes straight.

[I am...]

I don't know what standard they hold themselves to, but I would personally feel embarrassed to put up a Hung Gar sparring clip that looked like that. It does use some of our movements, but the methods of safe entry seem to be non-existent and overall I just am not a big fan compared to how I learned and what we do. Hung Gar in general is not "touchy" and doesn't chase bridges. You bridge when you can't hit, to create an opportunity to hit/seize/etc.

As always though, there may be some context missing from the video.