Tui shou, Da Shou, San Shou (boxing), Sparring- June 2014

[neijia_boxer]

some recent videos working with TCM practitioner and fellow Taiji player Brian Allen when he was down here:

videos here:

http://polariswushu.net/blog/2014/07/24 ... -sparring/

[Wanderingdragon]

Nice if ever the day comes, you're gonna have to teach me some of the tui shou patterns, looks like fun

[wayne hansen]

Just for historical acuracy the da shou drills that Allen traces back to Yang lc are actually panatucan exercises from kali.
Not that they arnt a great addition to tai chi
I teach them to all my students with knife stick and hand.
However lets give credit where credit is due.

[neijia_boxer]

Hello wayne. I taught those to Brian Allen. I learned them from Coach Pei who brought Yang Zhen Jie here to USA a few times. Yang Zhen Ji did not do Kali. These are Yang Taiji versions of similar universal hand skills. The difference is use of peng to connect. As mentioned they do resemble other martial arts, but they are Yang variations.

Matt

[wayne hansen]

I have seen them in plenty of fma styles but never in any yang school unless adapted from fma

[cfadeftac]

I study with a group that is influenced by the late David Harris' Soshin Ryu/Yueng Chuan; From that line I have seen very similar drills. David Harris studied Yang Tai Chi with T. T. Tchoung and Raymond Chung, a variety of arts with Fook Yueng, and Aiki with Sid Woodcock. The flow drills that I have seen from Harris' students have a slightly different flavour than the Filipino drills that we do (since our main art is Arnis). Since Mr. Harris seemed to stick with Japanese and Chinese arts came from Tai Chi or maybe Mr. Harris adapted something he saw in the Filipino arts or maybe even developed the drills independently.

When I first saw the drills I thought they were FMA but then I realized they were different.

Andrew

[wayne hansen]

I know they are not in Raymond's system because I taught at Jacquie Hickmonts school she was a long time student of Raymond and was engaged to his son ken at the time.
She had his whole system plus some fu from ken and Chen from his mother.