Lu Baochun Jinangbashi

[bailewen]

I was lurking over at the other board just to see what was going on and I noticed that my favorite online Baji guy, Lu Baochun, has released his jingangbashi on youtube.

Pretty sweet.

http://www.youtube.com/user/BajiAssociation

There are 9 videos on that linke. The top left one is pigua. The other 8 are all from the jingang. I am also particularly interested in interpretations on this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYgFoomCvE

I'd say that his 8 jingang are closer to what I learned than the Wutan versions but there are still differences, including the one linked above but I was just discussing this one with a shidi yesterday. Can't figure out what to make of the end part where you wrap your arms around yourself. My shidi thought it was a leg grab but I don't see an entrance. The first part is obvious. Basically very similar to any number of Tongbei combos but the ending part. . . ideas?

[GrahamB]

Don't know enough about the technicalities of Baji to comment on his forms, but I like the seminar clip with the leg takedowns - nice and sharp.

[lindun]

I study Huo Baji. And we have these movements in our Jingongbashi.
I will try to describe the movement you have in question. When you step forward the leading hand grabs/blocks the opponents punch at the same time the other arm/hand swings around and it comes down on the opponents head.

[bailewen]

So the "embracing" part is just follow through?

That's how I've sort of interpreted it before anyways but could never quite decide for sure. I haven't really work on it that long anyways. Also, I think the embracing part is a lot more pronounced in our version.

[kreese]

His power release is so damn smooth.

[SPJ]

Very cool.

Thanks for posting.

[JAB]

Correct Omar. That is how I was taught it too. Obviously you can hook under your opponents chin too for a takedown / locking type action after the wrap.
Jake

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYgFoomCvE

In this particular set, it is called quan bao or circular embracing as pointed out.

There are many apps.

He started and ended with opening the bow stance or kai gong shi.

This posture is a sign for tiger or spirits of tiger. I think the 8 postures are also equivalent to 8 gua

So it is the sign of thunder gua.

You may notice the double stomping feet to start the power.

Overall, it is very good.

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cool.

[SPJ]

Just to mention some apps of quan bao.

all of your 8 extremes or body parts have apps.

1. Forearm sweeping in or down, may deflect the opponent's arm, or just use your hand to sweep in and down the opponent's head or neck joint to make him fall---

2. Forearm sweeping outward, if you use your back hand to strike the opponent's face after you sweep in and down his forearm, it is called Shan (Fan). Of course, the forearm may press the opponent's chest and your foot tripping his leg and make him fall to his back etc.

3. In your moving postures, your shoulder and butt may kao the opponent.

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on and on.

There are horizontal circles around the shoulder/arm. chest/back, etc.

The hugging or embracing is a closing power (He jin) from 2 arms coming together.

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[SPJ]

金刚八式是练习八极拳的基础，其发力是在呼吸之间，劲力属于钢脆劲、爆发力。
其歌诀有两个：总歌诀和每一单式的歌诀

总歌诀：

金刚八式基本功，百战用法在其中

精气力劲要贯通，钢劲脆猛力无穷

动似雷鸣快似电，静如猛虎卧山中

短小精湛用法妙，切忌功到自然成

单式歌诀：

降龙罗汉力千斤，举鼎托闸敌万人

伏虎将军神力广，拔山带岭技通神

立掌斜劈开山斧，撩阴夺壮莫因循

前冲锤法谁能挡，到拉九牛勇无论

鹤步沙滩推山势，指撑八面任取神

虎豹龙拿猛又狠，圈拦搬扣似车轮

登山探马迎风站，起落返随叱咤嗔

熊精硬靠出蹲纵，横冲直撞少人侵

Boxing songs and classics of buddha warrior 8 postures.

For people that are interested.

[salcanzonieri]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYgFoomCvE

that's a classic Pigua-Tong Bei move, also in Baji-Piqua

[bailewen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYgFoomCvE

that's a classic Pigua-Tong Bei move, also in Baji-Piqua

Maybe that's why my original post said:

. . . Basically very similar to any number of Tongbei combos but the ending part. . . ideas?

I know not every body reads the thread before posting but come on dude, we're still on page one here.

[salcanzonieri]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYgFoomCvE

that's a classic Pigua-Tong Bei move, also in Baji-Piqua

Maybe that's why my original post said:

. . . Basically very similar to any number of Tongbei combos but the ending part. . . ideas?

I know not every body reads the thread before posting but come on dude, we're still on page one here.

Hmm? Just making comment that the move is classic.
Nothing else. Just a classic move from that style.

[bailewen]

No worries dude.