Posthumously Released Tsui Sheung Tin Videos

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[wayne hansen]

I would love to know what people get out of these demos
Not having a go at him but I don't quite get the point

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As with many things MA, feels different than it looks. To you it looks underwhelming, to those touching hands with him its irresistable Perhaps if you'd touched hands with him or a decent student of his, there would be more for you to see or maybe its just not your thing

[wayne hansen]

I didn't say it was underwhelming
I just don't get the point of the demo
So my question is still unanswered

[Bao]

I didn't say it was underwhelming
I just don't get the point of the demo
So my question is still unanswered

Some parts from the classes showing how to compromise structure instead of just blocking. IMHO it's quite easy to come to conclusions about the reasons behind what is shown.

Well... Maybe this vid can explain for you what he wants with his teaching?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ySHbKOQLys

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Thanks Bao, hopefully that is useful to you wayne. Sorry if my answer wasn't helpful, its hard for me to tell someone I don't know personally what the "point of the demo" is. I find these types of demos very useful for many reasons, I don't know what reasons you would find them useful for, or if you even would at all.

[Steve James]

Interesting to that WC seems so effective for small, weedy-looking little chaps. Or was it simply because Yip Man was a small, weedy little chap that he (brilliantly) modified the method?

Necessity is the mother of invention. Anyway, how else can the weedy-looking chaps survive?

[wayne hansen]

I just like to see what people are trying to show
Although I have never trained wc I have been close to a number of people who are quite skilled
I feel I have a rudimentary understanding

[willywrong]

I didn't say it was underwhelming
I just don't get the point of the demo
So my question is still unanswered

Some parts from the classes showing how to compromise structure instead of just blocking. IMHO it's quite easy to come to conclusions about the reasons behind what is shown.

Well... Maybe this vid can explain for you what he wants with his teaching?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ySHbKOQLys

Small thought was the first form taught by Greg Choi in Sydney in 73 (disciple of Yip Man). It was always about doing nothing. I don't understand how it took him so long to arrive at the point of knowing that his students just had to stop the thoughts from interfering with their movements.

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I don't understand how it took him so long to arrive at the point of knowing that his students just had to stop the thoughts from interfering with their movements.

It didn't take him a long time to understand that but he did spend the rest of his life figuring out how best to teach it. Understanding that thoughts interfere with our movement is one thing, being able to move without our thoughts interfering is another. Understanding doesn't equal skill, especially not for your students.

[Bao]

I don't understand how it took him so long to arrive at the point of knowing that his students just had to stop the thoughts from interfering with their movements.

It didn't take him a long time to understand that but he did spend the rest of his life figuring out how best to teach it. Understanding that thoughts interfere with our movement is one thing, being able to move without our thoughts interfering is another. Understanding doesn't equal skill, especially not for your students.

Interesting thoughts. In tai chi, the mind must be empty. It's not everyone who reach the point where they understand this from a practical point of view. People like to plan what to do, figure out how to respond, ....and worry....
....As they say in improvisation theatre, the right place to be is when you don't think and just about anything can pop out from the head. This is the same place where you want to be in the martial arts, not having any thoughts about what to do, but just be somewhere where any kind of response comes out naturally without thinking. There's a logic to it that not anyone can grasp it, because your art must first has been made your own property, so you can play with it, improvise with it in a free and unrehearsed manner.

[wayne hansen]

Isn't talking and thinking the things that stop no mind
Doing
Pushing
As I have said before
Tai chi is literally passed on from
Hand to hand
An hour of pushing an hour of budda

[willywrong]

I don't understand how it took him so long to arrive at the point of knowing that his students just had to stop the thoughts from interfering with their movements.

It didn't take him a long time to understand that but he did spend the rest of his life figuring out how best to teach it

. Understanding that thoughts interfere with our movement is one thing, being able to move without our thoughts interfering is another. Understanding doesn't equal skill, especially not for your students.

So he was the one doing to much thinking.

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I can't tell if your joking, but at least your happy now.