Commencement and crane spreads wings

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Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby GrahamB on Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:14 am

Just watching this video of Rickson again, showing his 'invisible' JiuJitsu. It's brilliant. The two movements are basically the same as commencement of most tai chi forms and what looks like the wu style version of crane spreads wings, with the bend forward from the waist.

http://youtu.be/DbtIPkyGm4g

The little details though.

And like yang Cheng fu, he keeps admonishing the student to relax.

P.s. Props to Jake for providing these videos, but dang I don't know how he got his black belt without knowing the defence to a rear choke.... :-/
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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:37 pm

Nice video. I like the throw part but it's not really secret or advanced stuff. As for the push and stuff I prefer to yield and turn, but this approach works well too.
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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby GrahamB on Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:07 pm

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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:21 pm

Thanks for posting the interview. Rickson would be an awesome teacher to have.
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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby lazyboxer on Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:45 pm

Thanks for this, Graham. What I got out of it was Rickson's natural, honest and brilliantly clear teaching approach. He's going beyond technique and using his own charisma to awaken the right emotional and mental positivity from which all effective technique naturally emerges. You can see it happening in Jake's response. It's something all really good teachers have, perhaps even are born with. Unfortunately, it's something found all too little in most classical Asian MA, at least as we know them today.
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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby Josealb on Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:19 pm

I cant wait for Rickson vs Buchecha on Metamoris.
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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby Bhassler on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:46 pm

Does BJJ teach structure in the sense that it's commonly taught in CMA? Do they have a different concept of it? Or do they just roll and let people figure out the body mechanics for themselves?
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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby GrahamB on Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:06 am

I thought you'd been doing Bjj b?

Some thoughts:

In Bjj you hardly ever want a space available under your armpit. Hence 'hold the ball' type postures are bad.

To judo throw really well you often have to break your own posture, according to tai chi 'rules'.

Bjj uses weight and pressure of gravity on top positions.

Going limp is a good escape sometimes.

All martial arts, by one way or another, require you to use your hips to dominate the opponents hips either by connection or positioning when not in contact.

Relax!

Depends on the teacher.
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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby Bhassler on Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:28 am

GrahamB wrote:I thought you'd been doing Bjj b?

Some thoughts:

In Bjj you hardly ever want a space available under your armpit. Hence 'hold the ball' type postures are bad.

To judo throw really well you often have to break your own posture, according to tai chi 'rules'.

Bjj uses weight and pressure of gravity on top positions.

Going limp is a good escape sometimes.

All martial arts, by one way or another, require you to use your hips to dominate the opponents hips either by connection or positioning when not in contact.

Relax!

Depends on the teacher.


Thanks, G!

I haven't been doing BJJ, but you might say I am BJJ-curious. I don't have a lot of time at the moment and can't see paying $150/month locally for classes if I'm only going to one group class a week. Some of the BJJ I see makes sense to me, and some doesn't, and in lieu of being able to check it out for myself I figured I could ask questions. It's kind of an abuse of the interweb, which by all rights and convention should be used for trolling anything I don't understand, but hopefully the feds won't confiscate my internets for it.
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Re: Commencement and crane spreads wings

Postby GrahamB on Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:43 am

Hey,

Well you definitely won't get very far with one class a week. (But, it's also a great place to start if you can do it regularly) :) But I think, like anything, it depends who the teacher is. One class a week with Rickson might be like training everyday in terms of technical content compared to another teacher, but there's also the conditioning side - grip strength, cardio, flexibility, conditioning, physical and mental toughness - kind of hard to maintain that unless you train a lot, hence the emphasis on 'lifestyle'.

It's damn addictive though!
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