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Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:27 pm
by GrahamB
https://www.facebook.com/seahorsearts/v ... _video_set

Some people here might have been taught by this master, back in the day.

It's amazing to see this preserved so well from 1973 - that was a long time ago! His chair demo is a nice bit of theatre.

He doesn't know when the last ice age was, but bear in mind that this was pre-Internet, MMA and all the rest of it.

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:04 pm
by willywrong
GrahamB wrote:https://www.facebook.com/seahorsearts/videos/vb.19929383259/10153273266058260/?type=3&video_source=pages_video_set

Some people here might have been taught by this master, back in the day.

It's amazing to see this preserved so well from 1973 - that was a long time ago! His chair demo is a nice bit of theatre.

He doesn't know when the last ice age was, but bear in mind that this was
pre-Internet, MMA and all the rest of it.



Are you talking about there being little or no respect for past masters nowadays?

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:33 pm
by GrahamB
Not really....

I just meant that the 'sparring' the two guys are doing at the start in the background looks kind of embarrassing by today's standards, and some if the 'facts' he talks about (like when the ice age was) are clearly wrong. These days it's so easy to look up stuff like that on the internet.

You just have to remember that this was 1973 when you watch it. I also think that you have to view the demos as a nice bit of theatre. Everybody enjoys a magic trick!

I love the way the interviewer really wants to know if it works and get involved - also Chee says nothing about chi being the reason he can do the chair demo and instead points out it is structure and redirecting force.

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:02 pm
by wayne hansen
Most people back then didn't spar like that
Chee soo was always looked upon with mirth
I might be wrong but wasn't his real name Clifford Gordon and he was raised in a bernardos home and never went to china

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:15 pm
by GrahamB
His daughters account probably has the most accurate biography:

http://www.taoistarts.org/wp-content/up ... Feb.08.doc

(The Chinese girl in the background in that video I linked to is quite possibly his daughter)

I don't know about China but I've seen a picture of him and his second wife on holiday in Hong Kong.

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:04 am
by GrahamB
I take your point that most people didn't spar like that back in the '70s Wayne - it's a good point. That sort of sparring is typical of the style. Far from unique even today though - for example, I went to my kids school fair on Saturday and there was a local group doing a Tae Kwan Do demo looking to recruit more kids - the sparring looked almost exactly like what they're doing in the video above - just dancing about in each other's general direction and throwing kicks that miss. :)

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:39 am
by hodmeist
Clifford Gibbs was his other name. I trained with his son in law years and years ago in the family style of Kung Fu and Tai Chi. I think Chee Soo splits the UK Tai Chi community from that time down the middle. Some say charlatan and others say genius.

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:04 pm
by wayne hansen
Grahame you don't see any holes in his daughters account

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:30 pm
by GrahamB
Oh it's full of holes, but I only said it was the best.

And you can't spell my name.

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:57 pm
by wayne hansen
I'm old lots of things I can't do

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:59 pm
by willywrong
GrahamB wrote:Oh it's full of holes, but I only said it was the best.

And you can't spell my name.


I think Grahame is a cool name, ever thought of taking as a nickname. Oh you can just call me Fat Willy. ;D ;D

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:05 am
by Andy_S
He was a very big name in the UK MA community back in the day (before my time). But I have read that his main art was Aikido, and what he shows here - in terms of both the "attacks" and the defenses - looks more like Aikido than CMA. And given the demo, I can only assume that "Saturday night punch ups" were less violent then than they are now.

BTW, if Willy Wrong is to called "Fat Willy" may I be addressed as "Plump Cock?"

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:58 am
by GrahamB
How about Golden Cock, old chum?

Re: Chee Soo interviewed on BBC One in 1973

PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:06 pm
by willywrong
GrahamB wrote:How about Golden Cock, old chum?


I think Limp Dick would be more apt. ;D

Chee Soo BBC documentary from 1975

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:16 am
by Chuangzu
Here's another video of Chee Soo from 1975. It was filmed as a schools documentary on Martial Arts, three popular martial arts were filmed from London at the time, boxing, hard style kung fu and Chee Soo's was soft style kung fu.
https://www.facebook.com/seahorsearts/v ... 587528260/