the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

I really like this lady's kung fu. I think her primary styles are taiji and choy li fut, but she's done a bunch of stuff and I would guess some of the high-hand silat guys have been a big influence on her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaEW1KMP8GE&t=5m41s

To me the listening, borrowing, flow, and of course relaxation all in the context of whoop-ass are much more exciting aspects of taiji than IP or party tricks of rooting and projection.

Thanks, I enjoyed that, nice movement quality and obvious skill. There is so much that can be developed in softness as long as the waters run deep!

To me the listening, borrowing, flow, and of course relaxation all in the context of whoop-ass are much more exciting aspects of taiji than IP or party tricks of rooting and projection.

which depend on and use the things you listed to work.
of course she has a much nicer looking delivery system

windwalker wrote:

To me the listening, borrowing, flow, and of course relaxation all in the context of whoop-ass are much more exciting aspects of taiji than IP or party tricks of rooting and projection.

which depend on and use the things you listed to work.
of course she has a much nicer looking delivery system

For the first, it's not binary, of course, it's on a spectrum, but the power aspect of internal arts is in my experience vastly overrated both in terms of importance and superiority.
The second is irrelevant in this context. It's a bit of a rant, but maybe part of the reason so few women are on RSF or in MA in general is the total inability of so many male martial artists to treat gender as just another attribute of a complete person, just like you would height, muscle mass, skin color, cultural background, or anything else. Surely it's relevant for certain situations, but not deserving of a winky-face icon.

edited: pointless

All I see is a well whooped ass for Ronda Rousey, why? Because she showing some very real skills, and you can tell by her carriage, the way she walks after finishing, she can fight and enjoys kicking ass, but that's just my observation.

Strongly dislike. Sorry for being negative

It wouldn't work against bigger, stronger opponents. Maybe a committed wrist grab would be enough to shut down most of her attacks and counterattacks.

There are more effective ways for smaller, weaker people to defeat or at least defend against bigger, stronger people:

Strongly dislike. Sorry for being negative

It wouldn't work against bigger, stronger opponents. Maybe a committed wrist grab would be enough to shut down most of her attacks and counterattacks.

+1

I don't think the OP shows anything as far as actual fighting technique, I think it's just a drill for flow and working with balance and affecting bodies. I think this video gives a very brief glimpse of how those come into play in an actual encounter when she offlines while using the deflection of the attacker's punch to affect his balance slightly and then uses the opening to get a hit and take the head.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFf2wl2k_Oc&t=2m30s

I didn't think about it when I posted, but I made some assumptions that her stuff would work based on where the video was shot. Most of the people who teach at the de Thouars Family Gathering are heavy hitters like Uncle Bill and Stewart Lauper, and her angles, etc. are very similar to many of the other fighters I've known. But if I didn't know anything about some of the people who respect her, then I probably wouldn't be impressed, either. In fact, I think I saw this video years ago and thought it was crap.

Not big on names or lineages , so I really didn't recognize any of the martial celebrity there. I notice the reality in her body method, I was somewhat underwhelmed with her treacly sweet presentation, but now knowing that some of the " greats were there, I realize it was probably necessary ego management.

Wanderingdragon wrote:I was somewhat underwhelmed with her treacly sweet presentation, but now knowing that some of the " greats were there, I realize it was probably necessary ego management.

Naw, I think that's just 'cause she's a San Francisco hippy...

Haha, I here hippy but I don't see hippie in her face, her face says " I will f___ you up, " not the 60s hippie I remember, guess that the evolution of the culture, all piece n luv needed to be balanced with self preservation. I know in the early days the average love Beat Generation child was prey.

RE: The OP
I am with Hassler, I like the way she moves, but I also take the point of the dissers - I don't think her technique would effective for real.

RE: The second clip
Showed some fairly decent stuff there. I doubt if she could play her snakey ground game against on the mats against a halfway decent rassler rather than against a respectful and compliant "soke" (!) in a convention center ballroom, but even so: She has SOME ground game. That itself is an improvement over the vast majority of CMA peeps.

I'd add that the first clip showcased the most laughable collection of physical specimens - wimps and chubbers, to a man - that I have seen in any MA clip: These guys would look more at home on the golf course than in a dojo, a kwoon or even a mcdojo. I am all for old farts doing MA (fuck me, I am not far off 50 myself) but MA are a physical activity, are they not? For that reason alone, I suspect the wiry Janet would be capable of delivering unto any man in that room a pretty embarrassing spanking if she felt like it. (And I enjoyed the scene when she was playing ground game and she 69ed the chap - though looking at him, I doubt if he would have managed to raise even a hint of a boner without a bucketful of viagra.)

I think you guys are overlooking her the skill. As I said her delivery belies what lies below, IMO, the most important t ability a martial artist should hone, is the effort not to underestimate their opponent, it is a problem I find with many MMAers, students of multiple arts and masters of none.

looking for who her teachers might have been, she says she studied since 1971
offers a lot of collage classes in the city SF.

we have a number of different woman master level teachers in the bay area

this happened to Jun Castro, her father a noted teacher of Shaolin Kenpo
http://www.shaolinkenpo.com/

One of the men asked June if she was lost. She said that she
wasn't, that she was waiting for her ride to pick her up at the corner. He
then offered to take June wherever she wanted to go.

She declined and said that she had to meet her ride. At this point the thugs made it clear that
they weren't going to let June go anywhere...She started yelling at them
at the top of her lungs to see if she could intimidate them. It didn't
work...The guy to June's left threw a big right swing at her head.

June sidestepped to evade the blow. He came back with a right backhand which
June blocked and grabbed with her right hand and delivered a strong front
kick to the assailant's groin.

The second man started to move forward, but June met him with a back kick. June says that it was partially luck that
the spiked heel of her shoe penetrated the attacker's eye.
Needless to say, the bad guy dropped immediately. June still had hold of the first
guy's right wrist with her right hand, so naturally she delivered her left
forearm just above the elbow which resulted in a cracking sound as the arm
broke. June quickly made her getaway and talked to the police..."

http://www.usadojo.com/biographies/june-castro.htm

June says that it was partially luck that
the spiked heel of her shoe penetrated the attacker's eye

that had to hurt


another noted bay area teacher

Gini Lau
http://www.ginilaueagleclaw.com/WECA/Photos.html#5


I can remember seeing Gini Lau, as a teenager growing up in the city.

she was giving a sward demo at a local full contact event "eagle claw" the swords tassel got stuck in the rope
the audience kind of laughed a little. She must have been around 18 at the time.

she went back untangled the the tassel,,not a word was heard during the rest of her demo, it was quite amazing at the time.
when she finished a with a well deserved standing ovation.

http://www.ginilaueagleclaw.com/WECA/Photos.html#5


gotta watch the wink icon
my comment on teacher Gee, was that being a woman
she is given a little more lee way in her presentations then if it would have been
a male,,,,here on RSF.

She and other female teachers in the area are quite competent at what they do
for the audiences they cater to providing a service targeted towards woman from
women s perspective.

I think some of the posters look at things from a very tight box of
mma or other competitive venues. not every thing happens in the ring.