C.J.W. wrote:Since the rising elbow strike and it's variations are very common moves found in Xinyi Liuhe and Dai Xinyi, the two mother arts from which Xingyi evolved, it would make sense to consider the technique legitimate. (I've also seen Zuan expressed as a vertical elbow strike in a couple of lesser-known, family lineages of Hebei Xingyi that claim to be 'purer' than others.)
From my perspective, (and very limited knowledge,) it's not a question on what is legitimate, more a question of lables.
... Which is not very important
... nicklinjm wrote:but his descriptions of what is powering the Zuan (the movement of the hips) seems very weird to me. In Song style Zuan there's a strong emphasis on the power going in two opposite directions in Zuan, one upwards in the arm/upper body, and another downwards in hip / lower body. <Shrug>
In the method I've learned every fist focus even more on the opposite side of the body. But to be fair, there are several different schools of body mechanics in XY, some of them really focus on force in one direction. I like this clip, here it seems more like the opposing arm is there for balance, it hasn't power going in two opposite direction, but it's seem quite powerful. Zuan starts on 0.20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPpwIoD0N8
Bhassler wrote:PENCILS ARE FOR WRITING, NOT BENDING!!!!.
"There is no spoon pen."
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Or there might be one and not at the same time....
...There's no wrong with different or opposing views
