Master He tieing up the opponent with spiralling body

[shawnsegler]

I think this is super cool.

[amor]

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I think this is super cool.

Liked that too, good tips there. The issue of connecting from elbow to fingers to maintain your shield is extremely hard thats all I can say but once you get it dragon body becomes a possibility and use of the arms as a 'shield'.

[C.J.W.]

Master He posted on his blog last year that he had to have a lumbar surgery due to the painful injuries mainly caused by years of martial arts training. It's good to see that he's out and about now.

[Wanderingdragon]

A spring coiled to tightly compromises it's own structure.

[shawnsegler]

A spring coiled to tightly compromises it's own structure.

ummm...ok? So what are you trying to say. I don't see Master He compromising his "structure" to do what he's doing.

S

[Dnotman]

Nice! We have this idea and play In xylhq,very similar,cool to see.

[wayne hansen]

Master He posted on his blog last year that he had to have a lumbar surgery due to the painful injuries mainly caused by years of martial arts training. It's good to see that he's out and about now.

His spine looks good here
Are you saying this sort of training hurt his spine

[lazyboxer]

Whatever happened to the idea of training BGZ for optimal vitality, well-being and longevity? Something here isn't right

[shawnsegler]

So, what's not right?

Bagua is a physically demanding art. It's not Yang Cheng Fu's Taiji where you can do it high and basically sway back and forth. If you train it well and long the potential for injury is there. You'll get the benefits, but the idea that if you get injured you've somehow been "untrue" to the principals of Bagua (or Taiji or Hsing-i etc) is a spurious one.

Just sayin.

S

edit: for example a young Master He performing Bagua Lohan Paochui from 7:33 to 8:10

[lazyboxer]

There's a big difference between the occasional inevitable setbacks and accidents which form a normal part of any intense physical discipline and the kind of long-term damage Master He appears to have suffered, or for that matter the knee operations I heard many senior Beijing BGZ (and yes, even taiji) masters have been having recently. That sounds to me more like the result of incorrect practice, unless it's due to unavoidable and serious fighting injuries, and IMHO goes completely against neijia principles. Just one man's view, of course...

[amor]

There's a big difference between the occasional inevitable setbacks and accidents which form a normal part of any intense physical discipline and the kind of long-term damage Master He appears to have suffered, or for that matter the knee operations I heard many senior Beijing BGZ (and yes, even taiji) masters have been having recently. That sounds to me more like the result of incorrect practice, unless it's due to unavoidable and serious fighting injuries, and IMHO goes completely against neijia principles. Just one man's view, of course...

I think I remember CXW had to have knee surgery so yes even taiji.

[C.J.W.]

Master He posted on his blog last year that he had to have a lumbar surgery due to the painful injuries mainly caused by years of martial arts training. It's good to see that he's out and about now.

His spine looks good here
Are you saying this sort of training hurt his spine

Among other things

[shawnsegler]

There's a big difference between the occasional inevitable setbacks and accidents which form a normal part of any intense physical discipline and the kind of long-term damage Master He appears to have suffered, or for that matter the knee operations I heard many senior Beijing BGZ (and yes, even taiji) masters have been having recently. That sounds to me more like the result of incorrect practice, unless it's due to unavoidable and serious fighting injuries, and IMHO goes completely against neijia principles. Just one man's view, of course...

Your view includes a lot of guess work.

Best,

S

[Dnotman]

No one knows another's karma and path nor the resaons for challenges. Wishing master He the best in his recovery and grateful for all he shares.

[Wanderingdragon]

I enjoy his work, but there has always been a debate, pro and con, over the curve in his spine.