An Example of Good, Internal JMA

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An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Ian on Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:18 pm

Not 'just internal' or 'just technique', but the whole package.

I don't have one, sorry :)

I was thinking that since the majority of posts are about what isn't the real deal, how about we have a topic about what is?
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Kettlebells4U on Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:58 am

My first choice would be Kuroda Sensei




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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby DuncanBP on Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:38 am

Kettlebells4U wrote:My first choice would be Kuroda Sensei


To steal, and modify, a quote from a James Bond movie: "There's something horribly efficient about you, Kuroda Sensei."

He's a perfect example of someone who had trained forms to the point where he's streamlined motion to cut out anything unnecessary in his actions with a sword.
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby DuncanBP on Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:40 am



From 0:46 to 0:53... is the Devil's work! :)
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Kettlebells4U on Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:54 am

My second choice:

Kenji Ushiro Sensei



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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Kettlebells4U on Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:15 am

3rd choice, Hatsumi Sensei






Though Hatsumi's lineage is not undisputed, his skill is very high level as you can see at his student Akira Hino:

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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Kettlebells4U on Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:26 am

There are many more, I also like Yoshitomo Yamashiro from Okinawa

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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby windwalker on Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:40 am

why are these considered good examples so far not questioned.

When Chinese teachers are put up showing pretty much the same things the questions
of fake and complaint always arise?
" It’s all in the Form; but only if it is, ALL in the Form."

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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Finny on Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:35 am

Ugh - Hatsumi and Hino are usually laughed at..

Kuroda on the other hand is definitely the real deal
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Kettlebells4U on Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:44 pm

Tom wrote:Ushiro Kenji? What makes his approach to karate "internal"?


It depends on how you define internal...

So how do you define internal?
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby middleway on Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:52 pm

Akuzawa minoru jumps to mind.
"I am not servant to the method, the method is servant to me"
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Bodywork on Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:09 pm

So....Tom
Ushiro.....
Do I NOT say what happened?
Do I just let it go?
Do I show the films?
It just keeps happening doesn't it? I think at this point even I would hate me.

I'm so, so, sad that you guys think this is high level. But I guys it can't be helped.
Ushiro spent the better part of a day trying his stuff on me in Seattle. NOTHING worked. 21 individual encounters. All on film. Tom knows several of the 44 People in attendance. He was also sent flying by a friend of mine. I was nicer. Tom knows him as well.
Two friends of mine, westerners (one known around the world) stopped another of these so- called internal guys in his tracks and planted him on his face.
Also Kimura was easily neutralized.
Can you define U-k-e-m-i?

So... If you think any of that if this is internal and high level, I'll wait till the end of this year when they...who have felt the highest level aiki men living throughout Japan-a veritable who's who of internal and aiki- reveal their opinions of certain people.
What a mess!
It would be easier to just lie. Or ignore this stuff and walk away
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Bodywork on Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:15 pm

Being able to fight well, never made anyone.. Internal. Or have unsual power.
And even internal has levels, some are better, than others, and they are better than most. There are things that are known and have happened that few know about and, oh drats!!! Isn't on you tube.
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby Kettlebells4U on Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:43 pm

Bodywork wrote:Also Kimura was easily neutralized.


Do you mean Kimura Tatsuo, the successor of Sagawa? And by whom was he neutralised?
I am not doubting what you say! Just curious to get the facts straight.
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Re: An Example of Good, Internal JMA

Postby klonk on Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:47 pm

Ian wrote:Not 'just internal' or 'just technique', but the whole package.

I don't have one, sorry :)

I was thinking that since the majority of posts are about what isn't the real deal, how about we have a topic about what is?



Taikiken, of course. Bwahahaha.

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