Fubo wrote:cloudz wrote:Fubo wrote:Yes, no technique will always work, there are lots of variables. That does not mean you should teach techniques that will only work against poor technique by a guy falling over... That only teaches someone how to fight the weak. The ability to change with the variables are rooted in good technique and principles.
I too have met teachers with decades of training that have no clue, it's a sickness in the Taiji world, but it's not an excuse for people showing stuff that only works on people that can't fight.
yes dude,
because the chances of those guys needing real life self defence against trained fighters using MMA and wrestling as their weapons of choice is just that high.
Why is it that anytime someone critiques a Taiji guy doing something the typical response is "well what are the chances that they're going to be facing (my your fighter from arts that typically compete). I mean, the "Grand Ultimate Fist" didn't get it's name from beating up noobs in the street as far as I remember, it got its name from beating other "trained" martial artists at the top of their game. If you train to be able to beat other trained people, your likelihood of beating the noob of the street wil be a lot higher, but the same logic reversed does not commonly apply.
Yes of course. I was making that argument years ago. However, it applies to such a low percentage of people doing any TMA let alone tai chi that the position is futile to be applied to all and sundry doing something with the name tai chi attached to it.
I also think you have picked on something and made a huge deal over it. You have made a lot of assumptions and projected your expectations, fears, desires and insecurities on all and sundry.
When you show me proof of a traditional 'old time' tai chi master teaching sprawling, you let me know. I have come across this guy before and he's a fairly decent tai chi and baji guy who has shown some good stuff.
I don't believe he doesn't know how to pull 1 leg back and or move off line etc. I'm talking the typical Chinese wrestling counter to a single leg. I don't know exactly why it's not there in that very instance.
But look I think I make my point whether you accept it or not. It's a seminar, and if you want to make this whole well worn narrative out of it you can be my guest.
My problem is that you take certain points - which I happen to agree with as well - and there is a narrative, a well known one, that comes with it.
What I am saying is that I don't buy into that narrative anymore. And I can plainly see that a number of guys on here still do.
That's ok. Good fighting is not off my agenda, I'm just sick of that narrative and it doesn't make sense to me anymore. I want to follow a new better one, and I will.
Good luck with your training.