DK Yoo Talent from God!

[Rabbit]

[RobP2]

I think someone else has put that title on it, not DK Yoo.

[Rabbit]

What do you think from a systema point of view Rob?
I like it personally, although the many different arts listed seems a bit dodgy

[dspyrido]

How is his fight record going?

[marvin8]

How is his fight record going?

"Fight records" are for low level, sport fighters in a ring, where there are rules. In da streetz, there are no rules, therefore no fight records. Unless, you count the taxi cab drivers.

Hard to tell his skills in timing, setting traps, distance, position, etc., against a non-compliant opponent.

He’s a good dancer, though. He shows some grace, power, and speed in his dancing. I like the music, too.

[RobP2]

What do you think from a systema point of view Rob?
I like it personally, although the many different arts listed seems a bit dodgy

Well it's very crisp and clear, so I can see how it could be visually appealing, especially for anyone brought up on MA movies.
I'd like to see it in some different contexts, most of that seems to be demo mode, or get hands-on experience of course. But, you know, we are all works in progress

[RobP2]

How is his fight record going?

I don't know anything about his background, but I guess you could ask him

http://www.systemakoreahq.co.kr/

[RobP2]

How is his fight record going?

"Fight records" are for low level, sport fighters in a ring, where there are rules. In da streetz, there are no rules, therefore no fight records. Unless, you count the taxi cab drivers.

Hard to tell his skills in timing, setting traps, distance, position, etc., against a non-compliant opponent.

He’s a good dancer, though. He shows some grace, power, and speed in his dancing. I like the music, too.

I train guys who have "fight records" and I train guys who don't, but have other experience. If you prefer to discount that, it's up to you. Personally I wouldn't discount anyone or anything based on my own likes and dislike in training as almost everything is contextual.

Anyway, my own fight record is The Eye of the Tiger...or maybe the theme from Conan the Barbarian...

[dspyrido]

I train guys who have "fight records" and I train guys who don't, but have other experience. If you prefer to discount that, it's up to you. Personally I wouldn't discount anyone or anything based on my own likes and dislike in training as almost everything is contextual.

Anyway, my own fight record is The Eye of the Tiger...or maybe the theme from Conan the Barbarian...

In martial arts if its not fight experience (ring, real or other) what other experience should we be looking for?

As for dky's talent - he's pretty pulic about how much mastery he has in the many videos that have been posted. A guy that dragonball should not be too afraid to show how he moves against someone with some skill that is looking to knock his god-like-eye-of-the-tiger-conan-power brains out.

Or did I misunderstand that his god given superpower is really self promotion?

[RobP2]

I train guys who have "fight records" and I train guys who don't, but have other experience. If you prefer to discount that, it's up to you. Personally I wouldn't discount anyone or anything based on my own likes and dislike in training as almost everything is contextual.

Anyway, my own fight record is The Eye of the Tiger...or maybe the theme from Conan the Barbarian...

In martial arts if its not fight experience (ring, real or other) what other experience should we be looking for?

As for dky's talent - he's pretty pulic about how much mastery he has in the many videos that have been posted. A guy that dragonball should not be too afraid to show how he moves against someone with some skill that is looking to knock his god-like-eye-of-the-tiger-conan-power brains out.

Or did I misunderstand that his god given superpower is really self promotion?

My bad, I assumed by "fight record" you were talking ring. But yes, fight experience is what we should be looking for. Like I said I don't know anything about the DKY's background, but suggested you could contact and ask him if you were interested.

I agree he seems to be on a self-promotion drive, but, hey, everyone has to make a living. I don't think the God-given thing is his addition but could be wrong - again I guess you could ask him if it bothers you so much. Perhaps you misread - the EYOT / CTB thing, that was me, it was a small attempt at humour, sorry it went over your head

[marvin8]

I train guys who have "fight records" and I train guys who don't, but have other experience. If you prefer to discount that, it's up to you. Personally I wouldn't discount anyone or anything based on my own likes and dislike in training as almost everything is contextual.

I'm not discounting anyone, either. He only showed a demonstration, not how he trains. So, I don't know how he trains. I did not comment on whether I like or dislike his training.

It was a compliment disguised in a joke, however badly. DK Yoo has grace speed and power, in his technique.

His demonstration is like most demonstrations, showcasing technique, speed and power. I prefer to see demonstrations that also show skills in timing, setting traps, distance, or position, etc., against a non-compliant opponent. However, this is rare.

[RobP2]

I train guys who have "fight records" and I train guys who don't, but have other experience. If you prefer to discount that, it's up to you. Personally I wouldn't discount anyone or anything based on my own likes and dislike in training as almost everything is contextual.

I'm not discounting anyone, either. He only showed a demonstration, not how he trains. So, I don't know how he trains. I did not comment on whether I like or dislike his training.

It was a compliment disguised in a joke, however badly. DK Yoo has grace speed and power, in his technique.

His demonstration is like most demonstrations, showcasing technique, speed and power. I prefer to see demonstrations that also show skills in timing, setting traps, distance, or position, etc., against a non-compliant opponent. However, this is rare.

Yep I agree. Teaching and teaching clips is one thing, you need to be able to see whatever the point the teacher is trying to make is. I've never been a fan of martial arts "demos" as such, though I've done quite a few in my time, particularly in CMA. The point seems to be about entertainment or looking good as much as education. I think he does has some "live" teaching clips up on his site, though Ive not really looked through it.

The compliance / non-compliance thing can be an issue. How far do we go? If someone is being non-compliant for a video clip, am I justified in breaking his arm? Or him breaking my arm? You get into difficulties - a non-compliant student will still be flagged up as a student. A non-compliant stranger is generally a challenge or a fight.
Training is always training. So it's a tough one - I guess with non-compliance as it is generally accepted there is still an etiquette involved?

[marvin8]

The compliance / non-compliance thing can be an issue. How far do we go? If someone is being non-compliant for a video clip, am I justified in breaking his arm? Or him breaking my arm? You get into difficulties - a non-compliant student will still be flagged up as a student. A non-compliant stranger is generally a challenge or a fight.
Training is always training. So it's a tough one - I guess with non-compliance as it is generally accepted there is still an etiquette involved?

Here's a demonstration that shows some skill in movement, listening, timing, distance, etc. ONLY a start.

Published on Dec 30, 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6gsnwnxqaQ

[dspyrido]

I agree he seems to be on a self-promotion drive, but, hey, everyone has to make a living. I don't think the God-given thing is his addition but could be wrong - again I guess you could ask him if it bothers you so much. Perhaps you misread - the EYOT / CTB thing, that was me, it was a small attempt at humour, sorry it went over your head

Well .... I dont usually reference dragonball with serious contextual combat ability.

As for his self promotion. I understand the need for promotion. It's the sensationalism that makes me wonder. I think he could have easily represented his demo skills by not claiming godhood ability, being bruce lees reincarnation or being a master of 10+ styles. Plus i dont buy the - "i did not say it someone put that up there".

In the end demos are nice. Promos are necessary for business. But extreme claims require extreme evidence. A great dancer can replicate all the videos especially in light of picking the right over-reacting demo partners.