change of balance
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:12 amWays of change of balance of a body of the opponent. Change of the general centre of gravitation of a body of the opponent.
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:12 amRe: change of balance
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:09 amthat's just foundational tai chi work
Re: change of balance
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:56 amMore importantly it can be completely negated by a beginner level of connection.
Re: change of balance
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:40 pmWhat Chris said.
If, say, you can't turn your opponent's shoulders, the rest of the sequence isn't available.
I prefer to train stuff that assumes the opponent's not giving you his structure, is trying to control you in return, and is likely to thrash / scramble when you gain control.
If, say, you can't turn your opponent's shoulders, the rest of the sequence isn't available.
I prefer to train stuff that assumes the opponent's not giving you his structure, is trying to control you in return, and is likely to thrash / scramble when you gain control.
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:21 amThe clue is in the title - Lesson No 1.
I don't know the guy in the video, but from what I watched of the clip this is the kind of entry level base exercise we would do to get people to start understanding some basic mechanics. It can also be a drill to get a person more loose in the shoulders, hips etc
It's a little like someone recently criticised our "static punching drill" because it doesn't teach footwork or combinations....
Building blocks. Willie had it right with foundational, but it ain't tai chi
I don't know the guy in the video, but from what I watched of the clip this is the kind of entry level base exercise we would do to get people to start understanding some basic mechanics. It can also be a drill to get a person more loose in the shoulders, hips etc
It's a little like someone recently criticised our "static punching drill" because it doesn't teach footwork or combinations....
Building blocks. Willie had it right with foundational, but it ain't tai chi
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:37 amRobP2 wrote:The clue is in the title - Lesson No 1.
I don't know the guy in the video, but from what I watched of the clip this is the kind of entry level base exercise we would do to get people to start understanding some basic mechanics. It can also be a drill to get a person more loose in the shoulders, hips etc
It's a little like someone recently criticised our "static punching drill" because it doesn't teach footwork or combinations....
Building blocks. Willie had it right with foundational, but it ain't tai chi
it was definitely taken from taiji.
but it is not taiji, just a very small piece.
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 4:29 amOh come on Rob!
you know everything is tai chi to a tai chi guy.
you know everything is tai chi to a tai chi guy.
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:19 am
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:45 amNo its not taiji, it doesnt purport to be but it does share and use many of the same ideas although expressed in a different way.
I thought the clip was well done and even though billed as basic it brings to light many what some might consider high level concepts.
It starts by defining and limiting the points of balance so that the principles of balance the how and what is maintained can be examined.
What I note is the manor of touch used in the demo to unbalance the the demonstrator. The same type of touch can be seen in many of
the clips I've posted in the past with other taiji masters demoing different ideas.
The other point I felt was important was the breaking point of where balance has to be reestablished by taking step.
I'm sure RobP2, could add to this
The ability to sense the range of resistance where it starts,
where it ends ect can be very useful as it builds the understanding of timing
in which to act.
I thought the clip was well done and even though billed as basic it brings to light many what some might consider high level concepts.
It starts by defining and limiting the points of balance so that the principles of balance the how and what is maintained can be examined.
What I note is the manor of touch used in the demo to unbalance the the demonstrator. The same type of touch can be seen in many of
the clips I've posted in the past with other taiji masters demoing different ideas.
The other point I felt was important was the breaking point of where balance has to be reestablished by taking step.
I'm sure RobP2, could add to this
The ability to sense the range of resistance where it starts,
where it ends ect can be very useful as it builds the understanding of timing
in which to act.
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:47 amwillie wrote:it was definitely taken from taiji
I doubt that very much
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:50 amDmitri wrote:willie wrote:it was definitely taken from taiji
I doubt that very much
oh, but your all wrong.
I actually seen a video that came out on youtube about 10 years ago.
where the main guy was training with some Chinese kung fu guys.
they credited a lot of their art to different types of kung fu.
Ha! got ya, lol!
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 6:05 amwillie wrote:Dmitri wrote:willie wrote:it was definitely taken from taiji
I doubt that very much
oh, but your all wrong.
I actually seen a video that came out on youtube about 10 years ago.
where the main guy was training with some Chinese kung fu guys.
they credited a lot of their art to different types of kung fu.
Ha! got ya, lol!
What "main guy"?
It isn't taken from tai chi, it is its own thing. Of course some things will be similar across many arts. But there are huge fundamental differences between this and tai chi
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 6:21 amThis is a bit talky but shows SOME aspects of where this type of work can lead
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 6:53 amRobP2 wrote:This is a bit talky but shows SOME aspects of where this type of work can lead
that's all taiji and BAD taiji too. lol!
Re: change of balance
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:07 amwillie wrote:RobP2 wrote:This is a bit talky but shows SOME aspects of where this type of work can lead
that's all taiji and BAD taiji too. lol!
Thanks, you proved my point - it is "bad taiji" because it isn't taiji at all. I did taiji for some time previously, so I know what taiji is. I know what bad taiji is as well, though these days it's very rare I'll comment negatively on anything, especially something I haven't experienced first hand