2016 version LHBF

[suckinlhbf]

You have more access to MLS's student's/organization than I do

I had visited their Head Quarter years ago, and chatted with an instructor. And soon a senior coach came to me. I told him their LHBF was not the same as I used to see, and they totally had no martial intent. He was being honest and said that theirs was a stretching exercise only intended for health, and they had strict rules that their place was for health and religion only. So sad that they name it LHBF. I would rather see John Li called it HueYu Taichi. MLS is pretty good but his followers have made it something else, and it is totally not LHBF. No wonder Chen asked Choi to deal with Li Chung years ago.
Paul Dillon was crappy, and looked like playing majong. His books on Five Word Song is taken as LHBF bible for some body. However, it is a translation word by word without really understand the meaning behind. He is not there yet and cannot realize the meaning behind the words. Too sad hard to find a LHBF teacher can understand, know, and teach the art. And now, the fake becomes the real deal.

[Drake]

True, true...... There are still a few "out there" that know what they're doing, but they're certainly *very* few, and far between. What's "assumed" is the "real thing" I can tell with one movement whether it's garbage, needs training, on the right track, or complete bull shit. Now there are *so* many people coming out to teach "the real LHBF" that make m want to puke. Thanks for letting me unload a little, N. Been keeping my opinion(s) to myself for the most part.

[Wanderingdragon]

How do you guys feel lhpf's new " intangible cultural heritage " designation will affect its further development?

[Drake]

To be honest, C? What we're seeing is the death knell for many arts regardless of origin. The original purpose(s) are lost to technology, society, etc. No one want to have patience. The "Coca Cola Kulture" of immediacy, and martial arts films is rampant worldwide. That's not to say that the occasional "savant" won't crop up, but just not that often. "Two weeks to *MASTERHOOD!!!!!!*" is the catch phrase these days. <<shrug>>

[Strange]

To be honest, C? What we're seeing is the death knell for many arts regardless of origin. The original purpose(s) are lost to technology, society, etc. No one want to have patience. The "Coca Cola Kulture" of immediacy, and martial arts films is rampant worldwide. That's not to say that the occasional "savant" won't crop up, but just not that often. "Two weeks to *MASTERHOOD!!!!!!*" is the catch phrase these days. <<shrug>>

TEH Correct

[Strange]

[Strange]

fencing masters say ppl need 2 lifetimes to master fencing
i think because the do not have zz

[suckinlhbf]

The ball will keep on rolling but change.
Change in technology shifts training focus from combat to health. Training methods have been switched to largely muscle training. Body method somehow is not clear. These change the context of CMA. Take MLS’s creation as an example, IMO, they can change the stretching from partial to whole body with a better understanding of body method. It can improve the result they are looking for. For martial aspect, it is always the basic, basic, and basic. But it changes too. You can see how many people doing ZZ can sit properly.

[suckinlhbf]

It is an example on not sitting properly on ZZ.

[Drake]

The ball will keep on rolling but change.
Change in technology shifts training focus from combat to health. Training methods have been switched to largely muscle training. Body method somehow is not clear. These change the context of CMA. Take MLS’s creation as an example, IMO, they can change the stretching from partial to whole body with a better understanding of body method. It can improve the result they are looking for. For martial aspect, it is always the basic, basic, and basic. But it changes too. You can see how many people doing ZZ can sit properly.

To an extent, yes, N. With advances in those areas life is much easier for many, but certainly not all.

A couple of decades ago a gent from Canada that I was acquainted with came down from Canada to visit me, and see what I was talking about with some of the concepts that we discussed about LHBF. He was a MLS guy. As I watched him I was amazed at how degraded his form was. I was shocked that he had *zero* body knowledge, or mechanics. Not even the most minimal understanding of footwork, positioning, etc..... I brought him to a training session at Choi sifu's school ((it was just an informal training session)) for him to see. He never went back to the MLS group, and was active in dissuading people from joining. He found himself a competent taiji instructor, and went with that. He was much happier. Plus he made friends here in Chicago

For some odd reason, N., your links/video's/photo's aren't showing up for me. Broken, or removed???

[Drake]

ROFL!!!!!! NICE ONE, E.!!!!!!!!!

[suckinlhbf]

The video doesn't show up on me too. Issues on site?

[Drake]

Definitely issues with this site's ability to link properly.