Sensitivity Drill

[RobP3]

A sensitivity drill from last Saturday's softwork workshop - full download will be available soon!

[willie]

nice moves, stolen from tai chi, still very, very nice stuff. thanks for sharing.

[RobP3]

nice moves, stolen from tai chi, still very, very nice stuff. thanks for sharing.

No, it isn't stolen from tai chi, but thanks

[willie]

yes it is, we do stuff just like that.
Get over it dude, it's a compliment.

[RobP3]

yes it is, we do stuff just like that.
Get over it dude, it's a compliment.

Not everything is stolen from tai chi Some similar drills , but the underlying method is very different

[willie]

I know that. your art is very impressive.
A+
my teacher like it too!

[RobP3]

Cool

[dspyrido]

Sparring was mentioned in this video. Any video examples of free sparring (striking/grappling/mixed)? Competitions or other?

[RobP3]

Sparring was mentioned in this video. Any video examples of free sparring (striking/grappling/mixed)? Competitions or other?

There's a lot of class clips on the channel, will be some in amongst that too. We film about 80% of the work we do, some work will not be on YT.
As far as competition goes most of our competing guys have "retired" but we've had a couple of the younger lads in comps and one was living / fighting out in Thailand for a while. I don't know what footage there is, there was something floating round a while back from a boxing match I think. I'll see if I can find it

[Giles]

yes it is, we do stuff just like that.
Get over it dude, it's a compliment.

Not everything is stolen from tai chi Some similar drills , but the underlying method is very different

I also train and teach some things which are, at least, quite similar in concept and goal. And at around 2.53 to 2.55 Rob does a connecting/bridging move with his right arm that is a classic accepting (soft peng-jin) arm from bog-standard Yang tai chi. Gotcha, exposed at last!!! And I'm going to link this video for my students because there's lots of nice stuff there.

But seriously, folks: "Convergent evolution"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution

For example:

The swift


and the swallow


are both birds that occupy similar ecological niches but have quite different "lineages", the swallow being a passerine or 'songbird' and the swift related more to hummingbirds.
So there you are.

[willie]

yes it is, we do stuff just like that.
Get over it dude, it's a compliment.

Not everything is stolen from tai chi Some similar drills , but the underlying method is very different

I also train and teach some things which are, at least, quite similar in concept and goal. And at around 2.53 to 2.55 Rob does a connecting/bridging move with his right arm that is a classic accepting (soft peng-jin) arm from bog-standard Yang tai chi. Gotcha, exposed at last!!! And I'm going to link this video for my students because there's lots of nice stuff there.

Ha! the funny thing is that, I actually think that he would be a better taiji teacher then a whole lot of taiji teachers are.

[dspyrido]

There's a lot of class clips on the channel, will be some in amongst that too. We film about 80% of the work we do, some work will not be on YT.
As far as competition goes most of our competing guys have "retired" but we've had a couple of the younger lads in comps and one was living / fighting out in Thailand for a while. I don't know what footage there is, there was something floating round a while back from a boxing match I think. I'll see if I can find it

Poked around on the YT channel but there was not much free sparring/grappling I could find. By this I mean a 1 on 1 competitive between students or others. I can see a lot of good cardio, padwork drills, technique testing and situational training but not typical 1 on 1.

Just trying to see how the method translates into a typical sports situation where two people face off and go for either strikes, submission, throws etc. (or mixed). Guessing it might not be a part of the curriculum & up to the student to pursue?

[RobP3]

Just trying to see how the method translates into a typical sports situation where two people face off and go for either strikes, submission, throws etc. (or mixed). Guessing it might not be a part of the curriculum & up to the student to pursue?

The typical sports situation is not really the focus of our work. Some of the guys who come to me are interested from their professional perspective, which is a different environment. Others are former competitors looking for something else and some are just "normal" Like I said we have a couple of guys who compete, everyone uses the training for whatever they like.

Many of the principles, such as the breathing / free movement aspect, are universal in application. The specifics are down to how and when people want to use the training.

There are guys teaching more sports orientated sessions, such as Riazanov and more so in Russia, or at least with some athletes from what I've heard

[RobP3]

I also train and teach some things which are, at least, quite similar in concept and goal. And at around 2.53 to 2.55 Rob does a connecting/bridging move with his right arm that is a classic accepting (soft peng-jin) arm from bog-standard Yang tai chi. Gotcha, exposed at last!!!

But seriously, folks: "Convergent evolution"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution

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Yep, good point. There's only so many ways of doing things

[Bao]

Not everything is stolen from tai chi Some similar drills , but the underlying method is very different

What exactly here is different?

And BTW, can't you show this and similar against someone very big, sturdy fellow? The second one looks too easy when you can press down on his shoulder so easily.

Ha! the funny thing is that, I actually think that he would be a better taiji teacher then a whole lot of taiji teachers are.

Instead of following movement, most tai chi teachers of today would say something like "connect with the qi" or "use yi". They like to make it harder for their students and confuse them. Some of them believe that mystifying things is better for business as well as it nurture their ego better....