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Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby cloudz on Tue May 16, 2017 5:10 am

Another one of these popped up on my facebook today.
This guy never really stood a chance in there.

https://www.facebook.com/ChineseMartial ... CH&fref=nf
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Steve James on Tue May 16, 2017 5:11 am

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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Wanderingdragon on Tue May 16, 2017 6:38 am

Any translations ?, I believe if you have mastered lethal striking methods, as a master you can modify them to non lethal demonstrative skills, i.e. If you're near enough and in position to lift the chin you can surely Lay heavy palm on the chest, reverse chop to the throat must easily be changeable to a well ground backhand pimp slap, I would think.
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Wanderingdragon on Tue May 16, 2017 6:45 am

At :21 flailing at air?, one hand alone, zero connection to any other body function, no step, no waist,
No opposite hand cover ?
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby cloudz on Tue May 16, 2017 7:37 am

And another one from the same YT uploader that lasts all of 7 seconds.

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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby C.J.W. on Tue May 16, 2017 7:56 am

After viewing video footage of all the recent disastrous CMA vs MMA/Sanda/Boxing matches, I think it's quite obvious that many CMAists are almost clueless when it comes to defending against a flurry of violent punches to the head coming from different angles.

CMA, in general, also spends too much time on cooperative application training that begin with some type of wrist or arm contact, or against unrealistic telegraphed attacks.
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Wanderingdragon on Tue May 16, 2017 9:39 am

Agreed , on all points, which in turn leads to lead feet, considered root but realized as stagnation.
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Dmitri on Tue May 16, 2017 10:16 am

Who cares if you can take care of a punch -- Wudang Kungfu will eventually make you an immortal, no? :)
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby wayne hansen on Tue May 16, 2017 11:26 am

From the moment he hurts his arm and does his arm circles he just doesn't want to be there
Another case of as soon as I'm loosing I give up
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby C.J.W. on Tue May 16, 2017 7:00 pm

Just found the full version on Youtube:




The Bagua guy later claims that the reason he lost is because striking the throat wasn't allowed....
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Wanderingdragon on Tue May 16, 2017 7:14 pm

Please see my initial response above.
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Dmitri on Tue May 16, 2017 7:32 pm

These kind of encounters will probably eventually bury TCMA completely, as far as 'Teh Martial' goes. It will fully transfer into the realm of performance (dance, movies, etc.) and the only other value of it will be a historical one. Very soon, too; probably within the next decade or so.
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Ian on Tue May 16, 2017 7:36 pm

So all you guys saying the CMA guys are doing it wrong, why not post an example of CMA guys doing it right, instead of simply critiquing? :|

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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby Wanderingdragon on Tue May 16, 2017 8:48 pm

I get your point it is the reality of the situation. It's not me, but I suppose it would look something like this, it's really just about knowing how to fight.
https://youtu.be/_HJiOc-qNik
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Re: Bagua vs. Sanda

Postby windwalker on Tue May 16, 2017 9:03 pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_kdGe ... e=youtu.be

this is said to be chen style btw.
The OP clip.
the CMA guys didn't seem to understand about "space"
and how to control or enter into it.
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