the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

Hey guys, if any of you also post over on Kung Fu Magazine, you may know me and poster Rendahai are now collaborating on a new Youtube channel called Jiang Hu. Well here's our first two vids, a form by each of us: me Mantis and him Shaolin.

Please subscribe and share our channel. Application vids will start going up regularly from next week... and once the views go up we have some big plans!

Nice production.

The mantis play reminded of the way it was played in Korea. Very strong, clear and distinct.
you have your teachers flavor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz8bguKXBKk

Good stuff, best of luck in documenting and preserving the traditional way

Thanks a lot for your kind words!

N-Mantis has some very interesting ways of coordinating the feet and hands.
Was wondering if you would care to share some insights on this
thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25999

What makes it so fast
How does it cover the distance
Are there different types of stepping used, why and what.

If its a bit much, understood
Just thought that it might be interesting to contrast what are called traditional methods with
modern methods used to discern if there are really any differences.

Where's was this filmed? Beautiful location!

Awesome form! I subscribed.

windwalker wrote:N-Mantis has some very interesting ways of coordinating the feet and hands.
Was wondering if you would care to share some insights on this
thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25999

What makes it so fast
How does it cover the distance
Are there different types of stepping used, why and what.

If its a bit much, understood
Just thought that it might be interesting to contrast what are called traditional methods with
modern methods used to discern if there are really any differences.

I think they already covered most of the points regarding hand and foot coordination in the thread. But regarding what makes it so fast? Well I'd say using intertia. One type of footwork is called 半倒步 half falling-down step. The Quan Pu explains that the step should be like a drunkard stumbling. In this kind of footwork you are letting your body go first, and your feet are following. You are getting speed by letting gravity do the work. It's easier to explain it talking and showing than typing. I'll bear your questions in mind when I get to making a video on footwork.

Fatal Rose wrote:Where's was this filmed? Beautiful location!

Awesome form! I subscribed.

thanks. I feel my lower body looks kinda sloppy though.... havent trained nearly as much this last year and it shows!

It was filmed in Luxun Park in Shanghai.

Great stuff Will! So is the plan to actually teach mantis through the channel? Or just expose people to raise awareness of the shenfa and applications of your Taiji Tanglang?

nicklinjm wrote:Great stuff Will! So is the plan to actually teach mantis through the channel? Or just expose people to raise awareness of the shenfa and applications of your Taiji Tanglang?

We are considering making long tutorials too. For now just building up the channel with short 3 minute clips

That mantis form is great! I used to live directly across the road from Luxun park. Just had to go down my stairs and jump over the fence, spent a good chunk of every day there for about a year

I-mon wrote:That mantis form is great! I used to live directly across the road from Luxun park. Just had to go down my stairs and jump over the fence, spent a good chunk of every day there for about a year

so you were at Shanghai International Studies University I take it?

No I was doing an internship in the tuina department at YueYang hospital up the road.

chenyaolong wrote:One type of footwork is called 半倒步 half falling-down step. The Quan Pu explains that the step should be like a drunkard stumbling. In this kind of footwork you are letting your body go first, and your feet are following. You are getting speed by letting gravity do the work.

how very interesting!
am i correct to say that it's commonly known that Mantis Fist uses Ape step?
can you elaborate more on the origins of the form and where does this ban dao bu comes from?

nice vid, nice movement! thanks !

I wouldnt say "it uses ape step", its probably more accurate to say that monkey (being more agile than a heavy ape) is one part of the elements that went to make up mantis.

The main stepping pattern used in this form is 玉环步 jade ring step. Its going from a twisted (almost xie bu, but not quite so low) step, to a hook footed step. Jade ring is refering to keeping the knees close together, as if bound by a ring.

The form in my clip is 乱接 Luan Jie. I guess we could translate it something like "chaotically intercepting". The Quan Pu says that this form is the foundation-level form for one-to-one combat. Supposedly the name Luan Jie refers to old military tactics and means for the troops to break formation and engage the enemy individually. The form is made up of 36 single techniques, which are like the building blocks of the mantis system. Together with 分身八肘 Fen Shen Ba Zhou (dividing the body into eight elbows), they are the two oldest written down forms in the system.

I see, thanks for elaborating.

speaking only in terms of its literal meaning, Luan Jie may also mean to
say "haphazard linkage". In this case, of the stroke, movement and form
for you consideration