i see, thanks Andy
many years ago, i read an article written by a beginner in xy
he was standing santishi and Li walked over to have a look-see.
not knowing who he was, he asked Li, "do you practice also?"
Li said: : "yes i do practice a bit"
the guy said: "can you show me?"
Li proceeded to stand in santishi opposite the fellow
so they were standing santishi to santishi and Li fajin, only moving his front legs
the fellow said he flew back a couple of meters
he wrote that's how i came by to know Mr Li WenBin
these days i have a deep envy of those who have touch a Grand Master's hand
must be my age catching up with me