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Aikido v mma

Postby wayne hansen on Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:04 pm

Interesting clip I found on line
https://youtu.be/0KUXTC8g_pk
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby middleway on Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:43 am

Good on him, an excellent lesson for the Aikido Teacher and a good display of the care for less skilled opponents I have seen in so many MMA guys.
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Re: Aikido v mma

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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby Bao on Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:26 am

Good point from the MMA guy, that if you have practiced punching bag for ten years, but haven't the fighting experience, you will forget everything when you meet someone and still not be able to to anything. So it's not a question of style, it's a matter of fighting experience. Every traditional style suck just the same if the experience is not there.
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby Trick on Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:32 am

Ok not MMA and not fighting and probably at least a little rehearsed, looks nice I liked it. http://v.youku.com/pad_show/id_XMTgxODg ... 2520karate
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby middleway on Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:40 am

Yes its an important point.

So it's not a question of style, it's a matter of fighting experience.


Sorry i disagree with this however. I think there is definately a style element to the equation as well.

There is a tendacy to believe that every martial art is automatically effective, its just up to the practitioner to make it such. But there are things that work in human fighting and things that dont. If a system focuses on more things that dont then it is objectively worse than an art with a focus on those that do.

For instance, you can train Kendo all you want (fighting experience), but will it help you in an unarmed fight or even a fight against most weapons ... probably not. There are plenty of other less obvious examples of this of course.

Regardless, I loved the Aikido Sensei's openness in this video. I notice it didnt seem to diminish his love for his art or get him all depressed. A great sign! Bravo sir!
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby middleway on Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:42 am

probably at least a little rehearsed


HAHA ... no probably about it! Looks like they rehearsed this a thousand times before commiting it to film! The Uke Gives it away, he falls like an Aikido guy. ;) A fun demo non the less.
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby yeniseri on Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:24 am

Aikido cannot compete with the MMA complex as it is defective in the MMA style of competition. If ne-waza was added to what is termed traditional aikido, then they is a chance that aikido can equal MMA in depth and scale of expertise.
There is no doubt that a few Aikidoka can compete in MMA circuit on their own using aikido but that is rare. ???
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby wayne hansen on Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:31 pm

I put it up because I love the guys attitude
It just depends on the practicioner weather it can cope in reality
The aikido guy was not one of those samurai aikido types I have met
He flinches away at each point of danger instead of drilling in
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It was the attitude that gave victory not experience
It can work both ways
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby Bao on Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:46 pm

wayne hansen wrote:I put it up because I love the guys attitude...
It was the attitude that gave victory not experience
It can work both ways


8-) Agreed, good clip and a good honest attitude. I liked it.

The MMA guy had a great point. He said that if you punch a bag for ten years and then put on gloves and go against another person, he will do bad and forget everything. So he meant that it's not about style, it's about the experience of the individual. Here it's not Aikido that sucks, it's the person who sucks because he hadn't done any fighting before and he had certainly not practiced to use his art In a free fighting situation.
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby wayne hansen on Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:46 pm

The same guy in a sudden self defence situation where he doesn't know who his opponent is might do quite well.
What do they call it in the UFC adrenalin dump when they first get in the cage
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby wayne hansen on Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:46 pm

The same guy in a sudden self defence situation where he doesn't know who his opponent is might do quite well.
What do they call it in the UFC adrenalin dump when they first get in the cage
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby wayne hansen on Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:51 pm

The same guy in a sudden self defence situation where he doesn't know who his opponent is might do quite well.
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby Bao on Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:55 pm

Excellent point Wayne, couldn't agree more. 8-)
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Re: Aikido v mma

Postby RobP3 on Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:25 am

wayne hansen wrote:The same guy in a sudden self defence situation where he doesn't know who his opponent is might do quite well.
What do they call it in the UFC adrenalin dump when they first get in the cage


It might be optimistic to expect there is no adrenalin dump in a self defence situation. Skills or attributes developed in isolation have to be linked back into the "real world" or they tend to disappear under pressure
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