Re: Aikido v mma
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:25 am
Well, watching the Bas/Jason bout, it's clear that Bas had a basic system: hit the liver. It's fundamental strategy in ordinary western boxing. It doesn't matter whether the practitioner does aikido or anything else. This takes nothing away from the "aikido" guy's guts or ability.
I'm sure that aikidokas who actually try to compete with other martial artists also have a strategy. Usually, I'd associate that with a throw of some kind. But, I'm just a casual observer. All I know is that because the boxer's goal is clear, he or she can then set it up. When it ends up hitting the opponent at the desired spot, that's how you know it worked. Likewise, for the aikidoka. Sure, in a competition, an aikidoka might kick his opponent unconscious; but, if it wasn't aikido, he wouldn't care when his hand was raised.
Ya gotta admit that studying aikido doesn't meant that a person can't fight or win against someone who doesn't study aikido (or, does mma). So, I don't really understand the argument. It'd be interesting to hear specifics on techniques fundamental to aikido that could be useful in general. The nice thing about wing chun and some other martial arts is that a person can walk out of the first class with something he can use, whether a principle or a technique. He might not be good at it; but, he'll have a better chance.
Anyway, mma is primarily associated with (the addition of) grappling, specifically bjj. Do the bjj guys here think that they incorporate aikido principles? Is aikido seemingly less effective (or questionably so) because, unlike judo, it does not emphasize competition?
I'm sure that aikidokas who actually try to compete with other martial artists also have a strategy. Usually, I'd associate that with a throw of some kind. But, I'm just a casual observer. All I know is that because the boxer's goal is clear, he or she can then set it up. When it ends up hitting the opponent at the desired spot, that's how you know it worked. Likewise, for the aikidoka. Sure, in a competition, an aikidoka might kick his opponent unconscious; but, if it wasn't aikido, he wouldn't care when his hand was raised.
Ya gotta admit that studying aikido doesn't meant that a person can't fight or win against someone who doesn't study aikido (or, does mma). So, I don't really understand the argument. It'd be interesting to hear specifics on techniques fundamental to aikido that could be useful in general. The nice thing about wing chun and some other martial arts is that a person can walk out of the first class with something he can use, whether a principle or a technique. He might not be good at it; but, he'll have a better chance.
Anyway, mma is primarily associated with (the addition of) grappling, specifically bjj. Do the bjj guys here think that they incorporate aikido principles? Is aikido seemingly less effective (or questionably so) because, unlike judo, it does not emphasize competition?