Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

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Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby marvin8 on Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:37 pm

Tak Wah Leung
Published on Jul 24, 2017
A demonstration of Taijiquan by Sifu Liang, Bangkok Thailand:

Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/LiangDeHuaTaiji

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFA_QH0CuQ4

Liang DeHua Taijiquan
about a week ago

Seizing and Fa from sitting position (EngSubbed)
Can we use Taijichuan while sitting? Does Fa-Jin come from the legs?

Sifu Liang explained the relationship between the standing posture, root and Taiji skill (English subtitled): https://www.facebook.com/LiangDeHuaTaij ... 623835782/


THE MARTIAL MAN
Published on Sep 3, 2017
Watch the full video now directly through our website.
https://www.themartialman.com/sifu-li...

An exclusive 3 Part interview with Sifu Liang De Hua giving a deep insight into Yang style Taijiquan. In Part 1 of this interview, Sifu Liang gives a detailed demonstration of the "5 Fists of Taijiquan" and how they can be used in application. Part 2 and Part 3 will discus the history of Yang style Fajin and why it is used in both push hands and application.

To contact Sifu Liang please visit his official Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/LiangDeHuaTa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9BWIQ7gwks

Edit: Full Part I video released.

THE MARTIAL MAN
Published on Sep 15, 2017

An exclusive 3 Part interview with Sifu Liang De Hua giving a deep insight into Yang style Taijiquan.
In Part 1 of this interview, Sifu Liang gives a detailed demonstration of the "5 Fists of Taijiquan" and how they can be used in application. Parts 2 and Parts 3 will discus the history of Yang style Fajin and why it is used in both push hands and application.

To contact Sifu Liang please visit his official Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/LiangDeHuaTa...

The show follows Kieren Krygier traveling the far east exploring different martial arts and learning the secret skills and knowledge of the Grandmasters.

Each episode will investigate different aspects of each martial art by interviewing the masters and allowing them to demonstrate their style and skills on film. Giving the viewers a great insight into the martial arts world, and a front row seat to learn directly from the masters:

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Edit: Full Part 2 video released. :)

THE MARTIAL MAN
Published on Oct 1, 2017

Sifu Liang De Hua discuses the history of Yang style Fajin and how it is used in both push hands and application. To contact Sifu Liang please visit his official Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/LiangDeHuaTa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j82KfcsHe94
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby C.J.W. on Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:48 am

Nice. This teacher obviously has Taiji skills and I see yin and yang in his movements.
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby windwalker on Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:31 am

looks like Lumpini Park in Bangkok.

Used to practice there surprisingly lots of CMA being taught in the
park they even have a CMA association as I remember.

It would be interesting to see him apply it with some thai boxers whos bases
are not so fixed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLYafnxT3Uw
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby C.J.W. on Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:27 am

Using Taiji against Thai boxers is no easy task. Those vicious low kicks that Thai boxing is known for can quickly destroy a Taiji player's lower body and deprive him of his root.

Don't mean to rain on this teacher's parade, but if all he does is PH, he'll be in a world of hurt against any half-decent Thai boxers.
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby windwalker on Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:44 am

C.J.W. wrote:Using Taiji against Thai boxers is no easy task. Those vicious low kicks that Thai boxing is known for can quickly destroy a Taiji player's lower body and deprive him of his root.

Don't mean to rain on this teacher's parade, but if all he does is PH, he'll be in a world of hurt against any half-decent Thai boxers.


In the way they play push hands he would and will be.
IMO this would be true for most if not all taiji players.

If he actually played with some half decent thai boxers he might come to an
understanding of why this would be so and hopefully would make adjustments in his training.


As you mentioned he has skill, looks like they'er enjoying the training.
When I used to live in Thailand, the Thia's I knew really respected CMA and seemed to
understand the differences between it and muy thai.


CJW: I just want to make it clear that I am not a fan of competitive PH at all because I think the way it is done utterly defeats the purpose of Taiji PH training. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26319&start=15
;)

Very much agree with this statement.
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby Aqui on Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:10 am

From what I know Sifu Liang is connected to Adam Mizner.
Mizner learned from Sifu Liang.
If you cross reference Adams demos with Sifu Liang, they almost look identical :D
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby marvin8 on Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:18 am

Added released Full Part I video to OP. :)
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby windwalker on Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:41 pm

Aqui wrote:From what I know Sifu Liang is connected to Adam Mizner.
Mizner learned from Sifu Liang.
If you cross reference Adams demos with Sifu Liang, they almost look identical :D


I always found Adams for interesting. I believe in his background he's studied Southern praying mantis. His work and others similar to him always reminds me of Southern praying mantis when I look at it.

The bridging and controlling aspects seem very similar a little different than other taiji apps by other teachers.
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby wayne hansen on Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:32 pm

Our school in Penang would fight Thai boxers all the time.
Don't put power into the form let it naturally arise from the form
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby windwalker on Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:05 pm

wayne hansen wrote:Our school in Penang would fight Thai boxers all the time.


cool ;) should be some clips of them doing this.
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby wayne hansen on Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:06 pm

I'm talking about drop in challenges so cameras weren't on hand
This was in the 60/70's so video wasn't about at the time
It was also at the time of Malay independence so to publicise it wasn't politically wise
As well as Thai boxers Shaolin guys would drop by to test their boxing
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby C.J.W. on Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:52 pm

Aqui wrote:From what I know Sifu Liang is connected to Adam Mizner.
Mizner learned from Sifu Liang.
If you cross reference Adams demos with Sifu Liang, they almost look identical :D


I see. So if Sifu Liang also from Huang Shyen Sheng Shyang's lineage?
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby C.J.W. on Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:53 pm

wayne hansen wrote:I'm talking about drop in challenges so cameras weren't on hand
This was in the 60/70's so video wasn't about at the time
It was also at the time of Malay independence so to publicise it wasn't politically wise
As well as Thai boxers Shaolin guys would drop by to test their boxing


Very cool.

I'm quite curious as to what sort of techniques and strategies you guys would use to successfully deal with the Thai low kicks?
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby wayne hansen on Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:58 pm

The low kick was something that was part of our system as well.
We didn't really train one technique against another it was more about overall body awareness.
We had sets of combinations specifically designed for tournament fighting
They resembled Gao straight line ba kua.
Things like rollback press repeated with follow stepping left and right
There was also grandmaster Chocks fighting set and lots of two man application mixed with pushing
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Re: Liang DeHua — Yang Taiji: Push Hands, Apps, Seize & Fa, etc.

Postby Bao on Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:15 am

Using Taiji against Thai boxers is no easy task.


I don't understand this statement. There are people who do thai boxing who are lousy on fighting and there are Tai Chi people who understand fighting very well. You can kick or strike anyone in the nuts if his attention is somewhere far away from this area. Tai chi doesn't need to be very complicated.
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