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Wu Style oid video

Postby HaraldH on Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:06 pm

Is that older video known?

https://m.v.qq.com/x/page/d/y/9/d0320wpfry9.html?=

I always feel that many of the older guys on the black & white movies look much more impressive than what I can see on average from current material. Can we assume they where just much more skillful at least on the form side?
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby HotSoup on Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:32 pm

Nice vid, thanks for sharing. Felt out all my tendons while watching :)

Re now and then: perhaps one of the reasons of such an impression is that video recording at that time was very expensive. If someone deserved to get on film, he must really stand out.
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby Strange on Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:12 pm

yes, of course
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby windwalker on Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:29 pm

for those feeling the movement quality was good or exceptional

Is it reasonable to assume that he can give up so much space using the transition timing between movements
and use the next movement. In other words are the transitions between movements fluid with out stopping..
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby wayne hansen on Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:29 pm

It was not to clear on my I pad
However I think it might be Chen wing Kwong
If not it is the same circular form I learned through both the tan mon hung and Chen tin hung lineages
It is done very well
Thanks for posting
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby Franklin on Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:15 am

yes I believe it is Cheng Wing-Kwok

and its the same circular form (smooth form) that I learned
from his student's student..


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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby Bhassler on Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:27 am

HaraldH wrote:
I always feel that many of the older guys on the black & white movies look much more impressive than what I can see on average from current material. Can we assume they where just much more skillful at least on the form side?


Take a video of a current performer, reduce the frame rate, blur the focus, etc., and then compare. At least then it's apples to apples...
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby marvin8 on Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:41 am

HaraldH wrote:Is that older video known?

https://m.v.qq.com/x/page/d/y/9/d0320wpfry9.html?=

I always feel that many of the older guys on the black & white movies look much more impressive than what I can see on average from current material. Can we assume they where just much more skillful at least on the form side?

Same video on youtube.

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Cheng Wing Kwong Wu Style Tai Chi Chuan 108 Forms 89 to 108
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Wu Style Tai Chi performed by son of Zheng Rong Quang ( Cheng Wing Kwong):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2t8YuU26zU
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:42 pm

The son and the student don't have his quality and clarity of movement
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby HaraldH on Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:41 pm

Yes, such a big gap. The movements of Zheng Rong Guang seem very purposeful as if he knows what he is doing. I feel that maybe he could also apply this for real ...
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:06 pm

I am sure he could
CTH got his combat reality from somewhere
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby Trick on Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:41 pm

HaraldH wrote:I always feel that many of the older guys on the black & white movies look much more impressive than what I can see on average from current material. Can we assume they where just much more skillful at least on the form side?

From the little Wu-Taiji I was exposed to while I lived in Beijing this looks somewhat different, slightly more flow and slightly more solid. One thing that also might make it seem of higher movement skill could be the clothing, but for sure the man in the vid perform excellent.
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:46 pm

Northern Wu is quite different
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby GrahamB on Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:12 am

HaraldH wrote:Yes, such a big gap. The movements of Zheng Rong Guang seem very purposeful as if he knows what he is doing. I feel that maybe he could also apply this for real ...


For me the original video looks better because he's doing it "as it would work". The other performances seem slowed down to the point of obsolescence from a martial arts point of view. Sure, everything could be lined up and connected, but there's no expression of force. For a move to work it needs a certain kind of dynamic that reflects a realism on how the opponent would react, or the forces necessary to actually throw somebody from an arm grab, or lift them, or make then fall back. That's what I see in the older performance from ZRG/CWK.
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Re: Wu Style oid video

Postby Oliver 101 on Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:01 am

Anyone who wants to see Master Cheng Wing Kwongs Taijiquan alive today should check out the recent Wu style applications thread.
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