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Wu Style oid video
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:06 pm
by HaraldH
Is that older video known?
https://m.v.qq.com/x/page/d/y/9/d0320wpfry9.html?=I always feel that many of the older guys on the black & white movies look much more impressive than what I can see on average from current material. Can we assume they where just much more skillful at least on the form side?
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:32 pm
by HotSoup
Nice vid, thanks for sharing. Felt out all my tendons while watching
Re now and then: perhaps one of the reasons of such an impression is that video recording at that time was very expensive. If someone deserved to get on film, he must really stand out.
Re: Wu Style oid video
Posted:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:12 pm
by Strange
yes, of course
they believe in the system, dun talk and train hard
have focus and are not distracted by nonsense
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:29 pm
by windwalker
for those feeling the movement quality was good or exceptional
Is it reasonable to assume that he can give up so much space using the transition timing between movements
and use the next movement. In other words are the transitions between movements fluid with out stopping..
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:29 pm
by wayne hansen
It was not to clear on my I pad
However I think it might be Chen wing Kwong
If not it is the same circular form I learned through both the tan mon hung and Chen tin hung lineages
It is done very well
Thanks for posting
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:15 am
by Franklin
yes I believe it is Cheng Wing-Kwok
and its the same circular form (smooth form) that I learned
from his student's student..
Franklin
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:27 am
by Bhassler
HaraldH wrote:
I always feel that many of the older guys on the black & white movies look much more impressive than what I can see on average from current material. Can we assume they where just much more skillful at least on the form side?
Take a video of a current performer, reduce the frame rate, blur the focus, etc., and then compare. At least then it's apples to apples...
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:41 am
by marvin8
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:42 pm
by wayne hansen
The son and the student don't have his quality and clarity of movement
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:41 pm
by HaraldH
Yes, such a big gap. The movements of Zheng Rong Guang seem very purposeful as if he knows what he is doing. I feel that maybe he could also apply this for real ...
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:06 pm
by wayne hansen
I am sure he could
CTH got his combat reality from somewhere
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:41 pm
by Trick
HaraldH wrote:I always feel that many of the older guys on the black & white movies look much more impressive than what I can see on average from current material. Can we assume they where just much more skillful at least on the form side?
From the little Wu-Taiji I was exposed to while I lived in Beijing this looks somewhat different, slightly more flow and slightly more solid. One thing that also might make it seem of higher movement skill could be the clothing, but for sure the man in the vid perform excellent.
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:46 pm
by wayne hansen
Northern Wu is quite different
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:12 am
by GrahamB
HaraldH wrote:Yes, such a big gap. The movements of Zheng Rong Guang seem very purposeful as if he knows what he is doing. I feel that maybe he could also apply this for real ...
For me the original video looks better because he's doing it "as it would work". The other performances seem slowed down to the point of obsolescence from a martial arts point of view. Sure, everything could be lined up and connected, but there's no expression of force. For a move to work it needs a certain kind of dynamic that reflects a realism on how the opponent would react, or the forces necessary to actually throw somebody from an arm grab, or lift them, or make then fall back. That's what I see in the older performance from ZRG/CWK.
Re: Wu Style oid video
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Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:01 am
by Oliver 101
Anyone who wants to see Master Cheng Wing Kwongs Taijiquan alive today should check out the recent Wu style applications thread.