Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

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Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby Greg J on Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:33 pm

Great interview with Steven Benitez on "The Martial Man."



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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby Bao on Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:50 am

Thank you for sharing, interesting.

I liked his attitude and he had a very interesting story. He had a pretty good definition of “internal” as well.
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby willie on Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:24 am

Bao wrote:He had a pretty good definition of “internal” .

Bao, Are you kidding me?
His definition of what is internal sucks. It is totally like a beginner's Viewpoint who's going through some sort of Marvel stage.
I remember going through that type of thing like over a decade ago and have realized that it is all 100% non reliable faulty information. Please tell me exactly why you think his descriptions of internal is correct?
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby Bao on Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:28 am

willie wrote:. Please tell me exactly why you think his descriptions of internal is correct?


Whole body awareness, from inside out. Everything starts and end right here. ;)
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby willie on Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:33 am

Bao wrote:
willie wrote:. Please tell me exactly why you think his descriptions of internal is correct?


Whole body awareness, from inside out. Everything starts and end right here. ;)

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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby willie on Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:35 am

Greg J wrote:Great interview with Steven Benitez on "The Martial Man."



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Hi Greg. I really did enjoy that interview and it seems that he moves quite well. But his definition of internal is heavily influenced by pure mysticism.
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby GrahamB on Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:41 am

Doesn’t he say quite clearly that what people mean by internal in Silat is not what people mean by internal in Chinese martial arts?
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby willie on Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:40 am

GrahamB wrote:Doesn’t he say quite clearly that what people mean by internal in Silat is not what people mean by internal in Chinese martial arts?

So if I decided to say that internal was the dew on a Green Leaf in the Amazon forest, would you buy into that too? Maybe Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble are internal too?
What he is saying is from a Viewpoint of a person who does not understand what internal is in the first place so everything is just embellished.
This kind of reminds me of people who require some sort of belief system like Jehovah. They base their entire life around Jehovah whether it is true or not is irrelevant to them.
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby Bao on Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:12 am

willie wrote:No!


Let's open the 58th "what is internal" thread. -rockets- (Never used that smiley before. Cool! ;D )

GrahamB wrote:Doesn’t he say quite clearly that what people mean by internal in Silat is not what people mean by internal in Chinese martial arts?


What does he know? Does he practice CIMA? -shrug-
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby willie on Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:22 am

Bao wrote:
willie wrote:No!


Let's open the 58th "what is internal" thread. -rockets- (Never used that smiley before. Cool! ;D )

GrahamB wrote:Doesn’t he say quite clearly that what people mean by internal in Silat is not what people mean by internal in Chinese martial arts?


What does he know? Does he practice CIMA? -shrug-

Bao, then I'm all ears, the floor is yours. Please explain to me exactly what you found was correct about his interpretation of internal. People are constantly complaining about the weakening of this Art and every time that we get closer to trying to find out what that reason is, people get upset because they don't want to take responsibility for what they're saying
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby Bao on Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:35 am

Bao, then I'm all ears, the floor is yours. Please explain to me exactly what you found was correct about his interpretation of internal.


I already said it: Awareness

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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby willie on Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:59 am

Bao wrote:
Bao, then I'm all ears, the floor is yours. Please explain to me exactly what you found was correct about his interpretation of internal.


I already said it: Awareness

https://taichithoughts.wordpress.com/20 ... chi-chuan/

Bao not to create an argument, don't you have 30 years? That's the best that you can come up with? A fisherman has awareness, a western-style boxer has awareness, the guy that cuts down trees has awareness, a sparrow in a tree has awareness, a golfer on a golf course has awareness. So I got this great idea why don't we just all go golfing instead?
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby Bao on Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:27 pm

willie wrote:Bao not to create an argument, don't you have 30 years? That's the best that you can come up with? A fisherman has awareness, a western-style boxer has awareness, the guy that cuts down trees has awareness, a sparrow in a tree has awareness, a golfer on a golf course has awareness. So I got this great idea why don't we just all go golfing instead?


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Well, my top favourite concept is “emptiness”, but simple as it is, it needs a lot of explanation. ;)

There are also many different ways to express internal principles, you can complicate them through tons of books.
Kai&He, Dantian coordination, internal structure, the 6H, etc, etc, they all mean very little if you don’t understand them from the inside through your own experience developed through internal awareness. So again, it all starts from there.

I don’t like to turn these highly practical things into something intellectual. You learn by doing, and it’s through doing you gain understanding of them. But also, you need to start somewhere, right? You need to start with something that you can internalize and with something you can build other things upon. How detailed you explain the different layers of steps to reach somewhere is not the most important thing. First you need to set something in motion.
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby willie on Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:55 pm

Bao wrote:
Well, my top favourite concept is “emptiness”,

You need to start with something that you can internalize


Oh my God! If I hear either of those terms ever again during the rest of my life I swear I will burst.
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Re: Steven Benitez interview on Martial Man

Postby Bao on Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:12 pm

willie wrote:Oh my God! If I hear either of those terms ever again during the rest of my life I swear I will burst.


Ha ha!

To what address can I send you this T-shirt?

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