Roy Goldberg doing Aiki age

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Re: Roy Goldberg doing Aiki age

Postby windwalker on Sat May 12, 2018 3:37 pm

wayne hansen wrote:Yes I admit a lot of good teachers have trained other arts
That does not mean it was a necessity
It's just that most young men seek out the flashy arts when young
Even though a number of my teachers had done other arts they always emphasised that it was not a prerequisite
As one teacher would say to those who came from other arts


Tai chi will help your other art ,it won't help tai chi

Many of the famous styles of taiji came from teachers who had backgrounds in other arts. They were already
proficient in what they did who after learning from the yangs would later found their own taiji systems unique to them.


The big problem is a lot of people don't have faith in the tai chi method
Which has yet to show it works in any venue

They either won't give up past ideas or they look for other arts to bolster inadequate tai chi teaching
I don't care what people train but don't call it tai chi if it diverges from the path
Due to the fact that it has yet to be shown to work as advertised, this contrast to past masters of the
art who actively went out and engaged people.

What "path" who gets to define it....


Don't sell tai chi short if it is your shortcomings

I look at all the so called masters using weak trickery and culpable students to fool the gullible

It may be more of those looking at what is shown as in this thread do not understand what is being trained or why.
I note you didn't comment on the OP clip instead you refer to "taiji" masters.. What about this teacher Roy Goldberg and the clip shown



There may be no good teachers and the art might die with this generation but don't be the one to put the last nail in the coffin
A nail driven by the weak of spirit


Disagree, people find what they look for but may not understand why they are looking for or what they have found.

" You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need"

I know many people who've practiced other styles to include my self that after coming into contact with a taiji teacher
who's art was functional stayed.

Some have talked about mixing other things into the taiji or what ever seemingly not understanding that "taiji" a concept
came to be exemplified by certain, styles, methods, masters who went out to prove it worked. How true it is to the concept
depends on what one is looking for...ie :

historical method,

understanding of internal

unique method of fighting that aligns with
historical accounts of past deeds by founding masters of the methods later codified into styles.

I dont call my own work "taiji"
all that I met do.
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Re: Roy Goldberg doing Aiki age

Postby wayne hansen on Sat May 12, 2018 6:52 pm

I wrote a long reply but then my I pad powered down and I lost it
Then I lost interest
Let's just say I stick by what I said
Don't put power into the form let it naturally arise from the form
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Re: Roy Goldberg doing Aiki age

Postby everything on Sat May 12, 2018 6:58 pm

wayne hansen wrote:I wrote a long reply but then my I pad powered down and I lost it
Then I lost interest


Haha yeah this happens all the time
amateur practices til gets right pro til can't get wrong
/ better approx answer to right q than exact answer to wrong q which can be made precise /
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Re: Roy Goldberg doing Aiki age

Postby windwalker on Sat May 12, 2018 7:53 pm

wayne hansen wrote:I wrote a long reply but then my I pad powered down and I lost it
Then I lost interest
Let's just say I stick by what I said


Its not clear to who or what your refering to...

if its about sharing a view point go for it, if its about winning an argument
your right often best left unsaid.
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