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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby GrahamB on Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:58 pm

I-mon wrote:
GrahamB wrote:But really, it just felt good.

Like everything new, it starts off big and clumsy and first, but you soon learn to remove the excess movement and refine it.


This is the elephant in the room when it comes to internal martial arts, in my opinion. Something about the whole-body movement, open-close, activation of the "deep front line", the spinal wave, and spirals of the internal arts just feels amazing. It's the same with the real internal work of the hatha yoga traditions, with all of their bandhas, mudras, kriyas and pranayamas, accessing and engaging the very deepest parts of the central axis of the body, with smoothness subtlety and power, and a calm mind - the shit just feels amazing, and somehow profound. Sure there are some interesting effects with martial and athletic applications, and certainly a lot of excellent applications for rehabilitation and longevity, but those aren't necessarily the main motivators of practice, for me at least.

Nice post Graham.


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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby GrahamB on Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:59 pm

suckinlhbf wrote:The intent on moving in is fine, but not on moving out. Can compare it with using chopstick to grasp food from a plate on the table, especially when several boys fight for food.


That's the most bizarre comment on this thread yet. And considering that Willie is on this thread that, Sir, takes some doing. Congratulations!
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby suckinlhbf on Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:02 pm

most bizarre comment


Sorry GrahamB, not intented and not realized it was such a horrible way of writing. It shows again that I am suck. Anyway, I admire you so brave to show and share your clips.
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby GrahamB on Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:47 pm

Thank you suckinlhbf, that is enormously kind.
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby Overlord on Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:26 pm

GrahamB wrote:
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GrahamB wrote:You might enjoy this, you might not, but I'm posting one video a week showing you how to do that secret Tai Chi stuff ;)

https://taichinotebook.wordpress.com/20 ... -launched/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV3DaNZz3hI



Graham,

Just a reminder if you don’t mind~
1, When you open or close, both hands should be synchronized with togetherness of whole body. No fidgeting after hands stopped.
2, When you turned, you head is lean forward bit, you use too much redundant power.
3, The speed of your hand should be synchronized with your waist turn.
4, I feel when you turn your left hand, energy is stagnating on your left shoulder.
5, Speed evenly.
6, Too much up and down movement.
7, There is too much rotational torsion on the knee joint, 不好~

I no Taiji guy, but I think proper teacher is advised. Cheers,

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8. The Octopus' tentacles were definitely misaligned.
9. The Cheetah's tail was 5 degrees off.

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You reply like your movement in clip is redundant.
However should u feel the need to include them, it’s personal choice.
What do I know about Taiji, guess some secret move of Octopus tentacles and Cheetah tails I don’t know.
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby Overlord on Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:15 pm

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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby marvin8 on Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:16 am

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Master Chen Zhonghua explains in detail the importance of the elbow in the positive circle. Master Chen is a world renowned master of the Chen Style Taijiquan Practical Method:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBgHl7_V30

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In this video Master Chen Zhonghua teaches the positive and negative circles of the Chen Style Taijiquan Practical Method system of Grandmaster Hong Junsheng:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h48hslU31f0
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby GrahamB on Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:31 am

Thank you - I’m aware of Chen Zonghua and his ‘Chen Practical Method’. It’s different to the way the Chen village people do it and also to the way I’ve chosen to do it, for the reasons I give quite explicitly in my video.

I don't have anything else to say about it beyond that really. -shrug-
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby Overlord on Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:48 am

GrahamB
You miss my point. I am not impose CZH form on you.
In essence, essence of thing is what I am talking about.
But do keep working on what ever make you happy.
BTW, grinding of the foot is not grinding the knee.
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby GrahamB on Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:07 am

Hi guys,

Here's part 4 of the course. This week we focus on breathing. I cover the topics of normal and reverse breathing, then show a couple of different exercises that will get you on the right track for applying the breathing methods to the movement we are working on. Finally, we integrate the breathing into the movement, preserving all the progress we have made so far. Once you get the hang of it those breathing exercises I show are not required anymore, as you should be integrating it into your main exercise.

This week is more subtle than work showed previously. An inner focus will be required. Good luck! I'm happy to answer any questions you have.



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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby Bao on Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:30 am

IMO Reverse breathing should never be practiced in isolation, like when sitting or standing in wuji. (Yes, Yang Jwing Ming is also wrong.) Reverse breathing is a natural function of movement and will come naturally from correct body use. Imagine pushing a car. When you push and breath, you will automatically use reverse breathing. For form practice, the correct use of whole body movement will have this natural effect on breath as well. For instance, when you do a brush knee, you tuck in the hips and push down on your dantian as you reach out with the palm to strike. You just cannot do a proper "brush knee" without reverse breathing. You never focus on breath in forms practice, breath follow movement. If your breathing pattern is incorrect, you are usually just not "song" enough.
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby Ron Panunto on Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:57 am

Bao, I thoroughly disagree. I have been practicing reverse breathing in isolation (while driving, in seated meditation, in zhang zhuan, etc.) for the past 50 years or so, and have suffered no ill effects. Positive effects are a really strong fajin, an abdomen as hard and resilient as a soccer ball, and great health. At age 74 I have no trouble doing the double jump kicks in my Chen forms, and my sex life is good. In my experience, much of this is due to reverse breathing, both in isolation and movement. Taiji without reverse breathing is like trying run an engine with no gas in the tank.
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby Bao on Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:13 am

Ron Panunto wrote: Taiji without reverse breathing is like trying run an engine with no gas in the tank.


You didn't read?

I didn't say that you should throw it out. That's something you made up. Instead I said that, yes reverse breathing is good, important. No, it's a must. But it comes NATURALLY through correct movements. I've never said that it was dangerous to practice t in isolation. But it's unnecessary for developing reverse breathing. The problem is that breathing can (can, it doesn't mean that it always does) become forced and unnatural, which affects the whole body coordination in a negative way. If you find good use for it in meditations practice, good for you. I prefer not to.
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby middleway on Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:11 am

hi Graham,

ok i have a question. It looks like your Upper Traps are quite tense in the video around the (1.47 - the thumbnail posture), and your shoulders are raised, chest puffed out, head slung forward, especially as you open the arms backwards. If you contrast it with the position at (2.34) there is a dramatic difference in aparant tension in the upper body and upper back/neck. It appears to me that this would make you breath more from the chest and disconnect you from the abdominal breathing you are talking about in that section of the video.

So the question is, even if you are not doing what you appear to be doing, do you think this could be a trap for someone new to the concept you are trying to teach here? Should this type of posture be a concern or are you not worried about it for beginners?

thanks.
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Re: Tai Chi Notebook course

Postby GrahamB on Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:41 am

Hi Chris,

So here are the time stamps you are talking about:

1.47
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2.34
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So the idea with 1.47 is to really overemphasise the stretch of the connective tissue (fascia if you like!) across the yin channels. This is achieved by moving the body beyond the range that would be considered optimal (say for a martial function). So I'm leaning back a bit and losing alignment of the body, just to get that feeling of a stretch.

I just tried it again, and I don't find that this posture has any effect on my abdominal region, or prohibits me from using it for reverse breathing. (In fact, I might even conjecture that because you can't access the lungs in the upper chest as easily (they are being squashed/stretched) it should make it a bit easier to use abdominal breathing?)

Once you get that feeling you find using the reverse breathing has a notable effect on the pull on the yin channels (your arms should move a bit just because of the breathing - which you should be able to see in my video).

There's a separate exercise for the yang channels, then later I say that once you get the hang of this, you can forget that posture and move on to doing it in the standard hug the tree posture at 2.34.

Again, the extreme posture of 1.47 is just for beginners to get the feeling. It's a progression.

As to whether it's a "trap" for beginners... I guess that would depend on the person? Hard to generalise about everybody like that. I find some people just get everything right straight away, and others tend to somehow manage to find a way to do everything wrong immediately! The only way to see if it works for somebody would be for them to provide some feedback either in person, or via a video.

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Incidentally, once you get the idea of breathing affecting movement that I'm outlining in this video it starts to reveal what exactly should be going on in ba duan jin exercises. But that can be further complicated by other factors, and I don't think there is only 1 way of doing the ba duan jin - for example, you can stretch your arm - hold the stretch, then use breathing to increase the pull down a channel as a qi conditioning exercise, but don't move the arm. That's a different method that I'm showing here of allowing the pull on the channel from reverse breathing to lead the movement. So the situation is complex, and probably only solved by asking your teacher what the exact purpose of each ba duan jin exercise is in their system.

(That's a discussion/method that is beyond the scope of my course).
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