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Trick wrote:Is that a brush knee twist step from the shorts guy....he might have cross trained in Taiji
Yu (MMA guy) does brush knee (not exclusive), is more relaxed/calm (wu wei) in aggressive environment, balanced, aligned, ability to change (after punch moves and changes angle/center), more whole body power, leads (gets opponent turning and finishes) and uses opponent’s force (Zhu chases and walks into punch).
Zhu (tai chi guy) fails to control at point of contact, keep his balance (holds on rope), etc.
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Looking on his site he is just some young guy from the Chen village All the guys I have seen in the Chen competition at least know how to shape up They all seem to have some grappling skills,he did not Where are all the Chen people talking on this Is he known to them You would imagine if someone from the Chen village were to fight in this format they would be a family member or a champion of their competition
Don't put power into the form let it naturally arise from the form
Yeah, the ones who say that their tcc is the best should be the ones defending the style's honor.
Afa these matches in general, I'd be suspicious of anyone who enters this sort of competition wearing silks. But, frankly, I think it'd be far more instructive to watch how the guys in the silks practice for this kind of bout.
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What I find more disturbing than watching yet another spectacular TCMA fail is this Taiji guy actually had enough delusional sense of confidence in his fighting skill that he would dare step into the ring and face a kickboxer half his age.
(Just for the record, I think it's perfectly fine to practice TCMA or IMA simply for recreational and health-promoting purposes as opposed to combat, but one should have the good sense to be able to distinguish between the two and know which path you have been on....).
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wayne hansen wrote:Looking on his site he is just some young guy from the Chen village All the guys I have seen in the Chen competition at least know how to shape up They all seem to have some grappling skills,he did not Where are all the Chen people talking on this Is he known to them You would imagine if someone from the Chen village were to fight in this format they would be a family member or a champion of their competition
Liberty Times Net on 2018-05-22 wrote:Known as the Chinese Wudang Tai Chi descendant, Zhu Chunping (Left, White), the legend has a spike-like fighting combat abilities. He was beaten by amateur sportsman Yu Shengsheng.
In a comprehensive media report, Zhu Chunping studied Yang's Taijiquan and Chen's Taijiquan in his early years. Later, he learned Wudang Sanfeng Taijiquan and Mi tongquan. He is quite familiar with domestic Chinese boxing and possesses spike-like combat abilities.
As for the survival of Yu, it is just one year of practice fighting, and this is his first actual combat. . . .
wayne hansen wrote:Looking on his site he is just some young guy from the Chen village All the guys I have seen in the Chen competition at least know how to shape up They all seem to have some grappling skills,he did not Where are all the Chen people talking on this Is he known to them You would imagine if someone from the Chen village were to fight in this format they would be a family member or a champion of their competition
Liberty Times Net on 2018-05-22 wrote:Known as the Chinese Wudang Tai Chi descendant, Zhu Chunping (Left, White), the legend has a spike-like fighting combat abilities. He was beaten by amateur sportsman Yu Shengsheng.
In a comprehensive media report, Zhu Chunping studied Yang's Taijiquan and Chen's Taijiquan in his early years. Later, he learned Wudang Sanfeng Taijiquan and Mi tongquan. He is quite familiar with domestic Chinese boxing and possesses spike-like combat abilities.
As for the survival of Yu, it is just one year of practice fighting, and this is his first actual combat. . . .
My mistake to link to that Shanghai chentaiji page, but as it seem he dabbled little in Chen-Taiji, but yes if he where affiliated with the chenjiagou clan I'm sure they would not have send him up for a bout like this, they probably have their own gloved-sparring experienced guys.....Not sure he is affiliated with any "legit" Wudang MA's school either since they seem to also practice Sanda nowadays too.......He's probably a home brew of a little of this and that style of Taiji
wiesiek wrote:Aaaaaaaaaaaa, master of empty power and everything is obviously clear....
whats obviously clear
anyway, I found it extremely strange, that somebody coming out on the ring w/o proper conditioning
If one looks at all clips similar in nature it seems like a training issue and a basic lack of understanding of ones own practice. This experience might prompt him to question his practice and current level of understanding.
thoughts on the this clip? is it obviously clear
I am not suggesting they are the same but do show a type of reaction explained in different ways....How useful it is depends on ones practice.
Listen to the descriptions used in the narration " he will tense up if he feels something" a question might be, what is it he feels, why does this cause his body to tense up...
wiesiek wrote:Aaaaaaaaaaaa, master of empty power and everything is obviously clear....
whats obviously clear
anyway, I found it extremely strange, that somebody coming out on the ring w/o proper conditioning
If one looks at all clips similar in nature it seems like a training issue and a basic lack of understanding of ones own practice. explained in different ways....How useful it is depends on ones practice.
Is there anyone of such "power/force" that have come out standing tall from a bout such as the one in this thread topic?....And also, even if such a "force" is indeed real why publicly demonstrate it to an audience that they know never really will believe it?
windwalker wrote: I am not suggesting they are the same but do show a type of reaction explained in different ways....How useful it is depends on ones practice.
Listen to the descriptions used in the narration " he will tense up if he feels something" a question might be, what is it he feels, why does this cause his body to tense up...
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