In the Fighting Circle, two positions are possible- in the middle defending turf, or on the circle, probing and attempting to penetrate. These two positions change constantly. This is the microcosmic crucible that represents the struggle of life. All of discrepancies of character, strengths, and weaknesses will be revealed in the Fighting Circle.
windwalker wrote:two positions are possible- in the middle defending turf, or on the circle, probing and attempting to penetrate. These two positions change constantly. This is the microcosmic crucible that represents the struggle of life. All of discrepancies of character, strengths, and weaknesses will be revealed in the Fighting Circle.
Doc Stier wrote:windwalker wrote:two positions are possible- in the middle defending turf, or on the circle, probing and attempting to penetrate. These two positions change constantly. This is the microcosmic crucible that represents the struggle of life. All of discrepancies of character, strengths, and weaknesses will be revealed in the Fighting Circle.
As I was taught, I may initially circle, probing for opportunities to enter the center of the circle, but when I do, it is to deliver instant karma to the assailant(s), not to play defense in that position.
The Fighting Circle
The Fighting Circle set can function as either a solo or two persons set as it has both sides 'A' and 'B'. The Fighting Circle teaches a student how to evade on the defensive circle (Two Step/Den Choi) and how to strike on the offensive circle (Five Star, Triangle In). In this set, the overhand is used at each direction, charge or uppercuts are used on the triangle in, and the fist hook is used at the corners of the circle
windwalker wrote:Do or did you practice Tibetan white crane...?
ape or gorilla style bad outcome for someone thinking they can " deliver instant karma to the assailant"
might be for a rude awaking
Bhassler wrote:
Tibetan White Crane looks to be more of a long-fist style (YMMV), and is unrelated to the Fukien White Crane styles.
Something maybe lost among all the marketing and one dimensional thinking is how hard jibengong seems to often be a pre-requisite for functional softness in the more finished art.
Doc Stier wrote:windwalker wrote:Do or did you practice Tibetan white crane...?
ape or gorilla style bad outcome for someone thinking they can " deliver instant karma to the assailant"
might be for a rude awaking
A rude awakening? Maybe. Maybe not. In any case, I love that you're so easily inclined to overestimate yourself and underestimate me. It's all good!
Also, that Fighting Circle sparring is definitely not what I was referring to regarding defense on the circle and counterattacks at the center, but it looks like it would be both fun and informative.
As I was taught, I may initially circle, probing for opportunities to enter the center of the circle, but when I do, it is to deliver instant karma to the assailant(s), not to play defense in that position.
Appledog wrote:Some observations. I see Tibetan White Crane passed around a bit here. There is nothing special about any of the videos I have seen, in fact they are at best par for the course, if not a little on the bland side. The kungfu contestants in the 1991 Canadian Tai Chi and Push Hands competition, did better white crane and longfist style than demonstrated on here. I saw much better traditional skills at the 1995 Baltimore/USAWKF international tournament. Members in my lineage do better white crane (tibetan and southern). I don't mean in a white crane lineage either I mean just as a hobby art. I think this is my personal perception because I see aspects of our own art shining through and I misperceive them as better. I'm not sure.
But I also have the benefit of living in Taiwan which seems to be a major hub of southern white crane and I have by association witnessed all of their basic training methods. If you notice, some white crane, hung gar, wing chun and so forth players have an almost robotic, unreal illusory nature to their arm movements in the form. This is because they stand in horse stance and perform repetitive movements until they literally pass out or fall over. Falling over, BTW, considered the easy way out.
If you have ever seen people who have real traditional skills, like Pui Chan for example, who can do amazing things, they are on another level. I have the greatest respect for people who are willing to dedicate their life to the art like that. Another fun example is that guy on tiktok who jumps over 10 chairs in a row or does a standing jump over his head level (its funny because he walks around like an old man as a joke before and after).
Anyways in the end what I have learned is that it matters less what you do and more the time and effort you put into it. As for me, I know exactly how much time and effort I put into what I do, and it is more than anyone else here. I don't think that makes me a better fighter but I just know that it means I spent more time. How do I know this? Because if I find out you did more than me I will just do more than you next time :) I think dealing with things that way is a way to make friends and train, share and learn together. Gotta be the best.
windwalker wrote:Doc Stier wrote:windwalker wrote:Do or did you practice Tibetan white crane...?
ape or gorilla style bad outcome for someone thinking they can " deliver instant karma to the assailant"
might be for a rude awaking
A rude awakening? Maybe. Maybe not. In any case, I love that you're so easily inclined to overestimate yourself and underestimate me. It's all good!
Appledog wrote:Bhassler wrote:Anyways in the end what I have learned is that it matters less what you do and more the time and effort you put into it. [...] I think dealing with things that way is a way to make friends and train, share and learn together. Gotta be the best.
The one advantage you have over everyone else here is that your head's so far up your own ass, you can physically see your dantien.
Doc Stier wrote:With all due respect for your opinion, I understand the Shen Men Tao (SMT) System I was taught very well, thanks.
May you continue to do likewise with your respective styles or system. Again, it's all good!
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