Filling the middle dantian 中丹田

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ya, 100% to all, Quigga

[Baiyuan Laoxian]

Also I'd say that he is using Yi Qi regardless of what he's saying. If he got it practiced so well he doesn't need to think about it anymore, doesn't mean that he's using a different mechanism. I believe there isn't a different mechanism in the first place. But that's just my opinion.

In my style, it is almost the same way as this guy is describing in the video. For us the qi is like the wind you can orientate it, but you cannot control it.

Saying that there's no small heavenly circulation circuits and different ones is saying like someone has no arms in my understanding.

Maybe I did not express myself clearly, but the person, who is a Xingyi quan adept, does not say that there is not such a thing as the Xiaozhou tian but that he is not focusing on it and do not use “intentional intention” for moving the qi.

[Quigga]

What is your style?

If I understand correctly: a flow can be oriented / redirected / changed in its course much more easier than controlling parts of the current itself to move in different directions, such as being split, moving in opposite directions next to each other on the same path.

A flow from A to B can have many variables inside of itself.

What's intentionl intention?

[Quigga]

I also would say that once you are relaxed enough, many things work and happen on their own - 'miraculously'. It doesn't need conscious effort anymore or active concentration to move things inside from A to B. You just move like always whatever and things inside align and move and fall into place by themselves.

So he probably means not using Li in some sense. Not being unnatural, not smooth or unbalanced.

[Quigga]

Always having to focus on the spinal and hip movements and whatever else would lock the awareness inside of the body, not to mention it's way too tedious and slow to keep up in application.

[Baiyuan Laoxian]

What is your style?

My main styles are Sanhuang Paochui 三皇炮捶 and Tongbei quan 通背拳.

[taiwandeutscher]

In southern Taizuquan, they have extensive inner work with the lower 2 dantian, from middle to lower, in the lower, and from lower to middle.

[origami_itto]

What is your style?

Sanhuang Paochui 三皇炮捶

That's something I've been very interested in learning more about, can you share some resources? Videos, articles, etc?

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i um, haven't finished filling my lower dan tian so... yeah yeah yeah woo woo, fascia, qi is some translation or culture problem for you, blah blah, there is literal shit at that dan tian spot, nobody on an internal forum is interested in anything actual on the inside, but anyway

[D_Glenn]

Hello! I am new here. I have created a new YouTube channel where I want to share some content that is not often seen, mainly found on the video channels from WeChat.

The first one I want to share with you is this guy from Xingyi who is showing some dantian practices. I hope you’ll enjoy, but also that you will give here your opinion.

I like it! That’s called good Shenfa (upper half of the torso movement), opposed to Yaofa (movement in the lower half of the torso). Combine the two and you have something.

I’ve been trying to work on my Shenfa lately so I really enjoyed seeing this and seeing what’s possible.
Thanks for posting

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[D_Glenn]

One thing I will mention though, and I don’t know if this is the case in this guy’s lineage, but my Bagua teacher lives in Beijing and sees a lot of Xingyi guys who puff out the chest and hold it strong. Which inadvertently also ends up contracting the pericardium muscle. The pericardium muscle should never fall under your conscious control. It needs to remain autonomic so it can contract if a punch lands on your chest to protect the heart. He’s seen Xingyi guys have heart attacks during fights.

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[D_Glenn]

My teacher was two generations below my grandteacher, so it was a grandparent - grandkid relationship. He didn’t have the patience to teach him Bao Fali so he had him learn it at a Sanhuang Paochui school in Beijing so he could learn it alongside peers of his own age. Years ago I found a SHPC video of them showing it, but it was taken down and I’ve never seen anything similar since then.

I take it they’re still pretty traditional when it comes to not showing it to foreigners?

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