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Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:45 pm
by Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgOx9E8v6YM

Viewed from foreign confrontations: What should I do if someone controls me in Bajiquan?

Posted comment: "Dear Sifu it is illegal to use elbows in many MMA and it is forbidden to attack of the neck and back side too"



Does this make sense or is it too simple or inadequate as a defense?

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:42 pm
by origami_itto
MMA is about a good show

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:31 am
by Steve James
All combat sports are designed to minimize damage to the participants by limiting fair targets. That was even true of Roman gladiators. When it's not for entertainment or training, though, people do the opposite and try to maximize injury to the opponent. Imo, that's purely a matter of intent, or "bad intentions."

And that's the thing, if ya had the opportunity to deliver a full-force downward elbow strike on someone, would ya do it? :)

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:21 am
by origami_itto
To keep them from hurting me I would definitely throw that elbow.

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:06 am
by suckinlhbf
When somebody come in to get the leg, they will come in at full speed with their body weight. The Baji Sifu could only have 1/10th of a second to response.

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:38 am
by origami_itto
Clearly it is patently impossible to defend against a shoot for a double leg takedown, you may as well just tap out as soon as you find out it's a wrestler

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:59 am
by everything
feels like 1998. put on some baggy jeans and boy band records (really hated both of those, though)

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:28 am
by Bhassler
None of it makes sense. The comment is non-sequitur, as it's not an MMA fight. The grab, whether attempting to do a takedown or just hold on and stop the damage, was ineffective even in the original clip. If someone wants to figure out how to stop a shoot, it would be in their best interest to work against one that was well done, rather than whatever that was shown in the clip. In general, I'd say the real problems with a shoot are dealing with the opponent's forward momentum, and then either breaking or denying their leverage to either lift you up or pull your legs out from under you. Pinpoint strikes against targets that may or may not be available doesn't seem like a sound strategy to me.

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:47 am
by GrahamB
If you want to learn knife defence the best way is by learning how to attack with a knife. Ergo….

Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:38 pm
by Bhassler
GrahamB wrote:If you want to learn knife defence the best way is by learning how to attack with a knife. Ergo….


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Re: Does this make sense?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:15 pm
by Steve James
Everybody has a plan ....