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Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:09 pm
by wayne hansen
Interesting version though I have trouble working out a couple

https://youtu.be/w42zqpIHvuw?si=FZr2-YCXD6Qejx7p

Re: Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:21 pm
by yeniseri
Just as Yang Luchan transformed, liberated and developed his version of what is called taijiquan, so to
other groups have transformed Baduanjin into their own purported image and likeness. A neo-Daoist interpretative
version is no different.
An excellent way to see this is to analyze the many "Daoist" version of Baduanjin and we will see that" never the twain shall meet", i.e.
they are not even close in "format" and relevance (compared to a 1930s standard ;D ) The only similarity is the use of a Daoist uniform
of the day and add the beard and 'hat' to top it off and it becomes reality.

The form itself is wonderful ;D

Re: Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:13 pm
by Appledog
wayne hansen wrote:Interesting version though I have trouble working out a couple

https://youtu.be/w42zqpIHvuw?si=FZr2-YCXD6Qejx7p


Thanks for posting such a nice video. I think it is a good video and I might try some of these exercises!

If you have trouble working out a couple, which ones are causing trouble? There are a few unclear things such as how he is holding his hands on #3 that are hard to make out, is that one of them?

Re: Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:36 pm
by wayne hansen
No I didn’t mean I could not mimic what he is doing
I just meant I couldn’t see how some of them were related to other sets I have learnt
I don’t do any Ba tuan chin these days because I have better exercises

Re: Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:43 pm
by everything
interesting, seems like instead of "punch in a horse stance and "shake tail", he does some reach/lean, and some wider stance reaching toward toes. do some similar modifications.

Re: Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:17 pm
by Giles
The longer something has been around, and if it also spreads wide, the more it will diversify and create offshoots and variants. Just like the evolution and diversification of species. Or all the different churches, philosophies and sects within Christianity, for instance.
Eight Pieces of Brocade has been around in some form for at least 7 centuries, so all the more time for it to morph and morph again. Maybe the version here was made up by McTaoists 30 years ago; maybe it's true to a version that's much much older than the standardizations in the 1930s or more recently in the PRC. I quite liked it, whatever the case.

Re: Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:31 pm
by wayne hansen
I had a book in the 70’s with about 5 versions
Pretty sure this was the last one

Re: Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:41 pm
by everything
I like the varied stretches and moves.

Way on a tangent, it seems like someone woulda added something more like yoga sun salutation at some point.

Or something like the modern “world’s greatest stretch”.

Re: Eight pieces of brocade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:26 pm
by everything
I like the varied stretches and moves.

Way on a tangent, it seems like someone woulda added something more like yoga sun salutation at some point.

Or something like the modern “world’s greatest stretch”.