Retreat to ride tiger

[GrahamB]

Apologies for the lack of shaking

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C40_G-7o ... xkMDNsaA==

Same energy but 10x more power

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4warS8L ... NyZjE3Z2Fq

[origami_itto]

Looks like our retreat to ride tiger is a little different. Battery dying but the second part of this is actually what I'd map onto the movement as an application.

https://youtu.be/vp7WRt2-AiQ?si=CCvKGiM9SAWC9KSO

[GrahamB]

Well that's certainly different.

[origami_itto]

Well that's certainly different.

Yep it's more about the store and release than like a blind strike to the rear. This is mainly different in that the hands and feet are swapped but doesn't matter, it works either way.

When he tries to apply the shoulder, I route it straight down into the ground in the front. He's putting strength straight in that one direction. My weight and our force is on the front foot. You can see how my upper back and neck sort of covers the shoulder like a wet towel on a bald head.

As I start the intention to shift the weight to the back left leg, notice my heel comes up, like a step back, then as the weight shifts and I turn the heel comes down and the front heel comes up as that leg empties.

The turn peels his unidirectional force and twists it to my strong side, breaking his posture and as my weight settles backwards, the force of my mass moving from one foot to the other and bouncing off the floor is released through my right hand. Since he's scared and aggressive he's tense and it moves through his arm into his frame and he goes back.

I should probably be working on keeping my heels down more.

[Steve James]

Imo, the transition between Step up Seven Stars and Turn, Sweep Lotus is interesting because it's a preparation as much as a specific application. I.e., it helps with the spin

Separately, I've seen Graham's example of using Kao. It's harder for me to imagine it in the form sequence, but that's my fault. There must be more than a few possible applications.

After the upward crossed-forearms in 7stars, what are the hands doing during the step back? Yeah, they could be doing anything, but what do you imagine from the perspective of the form?

[origami_itto]

Imo, the transition between Step up Seven Stars and Turn, Sweep Lotus is interesting because it's a preparation as much as a specific application. I.e., it helps with the spin

Separately, I've seen Graham's example of using Kao. It's harder for me to imagine it in the form sequence, but that's my fault. There must be more than a few possible applications.

After the upward crossed-forearms in 7stars, what are the hands doing during the step back? Yeah, they could be doing anything, but what do you imagine from the perspective of the form?

In the Dong sabre form, the sabre is on the left arm at the seven stars. The movement starts with a turn to the left and a step back with the left foot. The right hand clears down to under the elbow then comes up inside the arm as you turn to the right and step back with the right foot. The beginning of that could be pulling them into the butt of the sabre. The right hand is leading them forward and the left is aiming at the face as you shift. Could also be pulling their flesh along the blade depending on the angle.

The step back and turn to the right can be considered an evasion with the left hand keeping them tensioned out, then the weight shift back with the turn back to the left brings all the power from the step out to the hands. So it could be a pull down with the left or a sort of peng like in my gif with the right, or even a split.

I mean, sure, Kao going back, I won't argue that it isn't there. It's there. I just think that Kao is usually expressed as part of a set. Without a pull down first it's a blind strike that might land you on your ass as easy as put them on theirs.

Not the best, I haven't thought about this in a couple years actually so a little rusty but had my wife shoot a quick video so you can at least get some idea what I'm talking about. We're in the middle of moving hence the boxes.

[wayne hansen]

Please!!!!

[origami_itto]

How do you do it? Show me.

[wayne hansen]

You have to earn it

[origami_itto]

You have to earn it

Bruh...

You're delusional.

[origami_itto]

You haven't touched hands with someone outside your school this century and you think you have anything like relevant knowledge? How does that even work?

You're always going on about people talking about shit they can't do, by all measures, including the scant video you have available, you haven't shown that you can do ANYTHING except talk.

What's gotta be earned is for anyone to take anything you say seriously.

Show me or shut up, quite frankly.