Re: Oh boy some more push hands vids
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:36 amBruceP wrote:
Really liked the blue t-shirt and sunglasses guy. Grey t-shirt guy showed some very good stuff as well. Matt wouldn't even need six months to be ring-ready if he trained in the right fighty school.
Are you talking about Eli there? With the regular glasses?
He's strong and has a lot of heart. Works a bit too hard for my taste lol. Him and his friend who does Xingyi have been coming down from Baltimore to every retreat as long as I've been going.
Just so we're clear though, that's who you're talking about and that's who you are impressed by there?
Alex in the grey shirt is a first timer, not sure where he's from but from what I could gather he's a nationally recognized competitor.
Why would anybody want to be "ring ready"? I can't think of a dumber use of training time.
Push-hands proper is really limited within the scope of what is being developed and tested. But it starts with the very basic of basics before it can be anything having to do with tactics and clever hand/arm tricks.
Definitely, it takes a lot of prior work to get anything useful from the practice.
How hard is it to stand up straight and suspend the head? Sink the elbows and press the knees up the sides of the torso?
Dunno, what's the scale of measurement?
Never going to put the center into the body without training and testing those things first.
Why not put the center outside the body? The center of what? Your mass, your opponent? The system of both contending together? Which part are you trying to get control over? That's the real question.
Why just start leaning as soon as the pressure enters the range of the forearms?
Not sure what you mean, maybe a video to demonstrate your ideas?
How can there be a center when the interaction is put at arm's length?
The interaction is happening from the feet past the fingertips into the opponent's body, not at the point of contact. The point of contact is just the join. If there is a join, there is a common center, that may or may not coincide with the physical space occupied by either of the bodies.
Gotta go out there and get your ass kicked many times before trying to win or even push someone else out. Doesn't matter what level of pressure one is engaging in developing and testing tjq, be it push-hands or full-contact sport where the other person is genuinely trying to wreck you- it boils down to EITHER, OR.
Abandon ship or go down with the ship. The former teaches nothing but validation of a misguided sense of progress, whereas the latter...well. Or,...just ignore that basic truth and continue arguing with people here who have been there and done that until you've cultivated a nice comfy sense of victimhood.
Yes, go out, explore the edge of your comfort zone, expose yourself to failure. Invest in loss when winning isn't worth anything. Worry about doing it correctly versus winning a drill. I don't know who you're trying to lecture about victimhood. Who has been claiming to have been hacked and had data stolen as if anyone cared and who is just responding to the constant stream of negative comments with no constructive feedback?
I dunno, man, I'm not collecting dossiers on anybody, just responding to how they chose to approach me, as always.
Most people here have no clue about the fundamental dynamics of Taijiquan, prove me wrong. They're hung up on choreography and imitating exercises and can't see what's actually occurring in an exchange or understand what any of it has to do with the classics.
