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Why truth matters

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:50 pm
by wayne hansen
I put this up for only one reason
What he says about untruths and how they effect others
This is how I feel about the internal arts and why I often question things on here

https://youtu.be/kCcHnaK4AM0?si=j65bSGF3iC8tHnvP

Re: Why truth matters

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:00 am
by DiaitaDoc
The thing I most appreciated in this video is when he talks about the labels of “Traditional Wing Chun” and “Modern Wing Chun” being false dichotomies.

This is how I feel about internal/external when it comes to martial skill development.

Re: Why truth matters

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:08 am
by wayne hansen
That depends on how u define those 2 things

Re: Why truth matters

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:27 pm
by Steve James
Afa William Cheung v Ermin Boztepe -who's wing chun/ving tsun is better- I don't buy the argument that tripping Cheung made it more embarrassing, especially if the argument was about the superiority of ving tsun :) That, imo, is a student's rationale, even though he admits that it wasn't a good idea.

Afa as truth and untruth, it often does depend on how they're defined, and definitions are relative.

Re: Why truth matters

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:00 pm
by wayne hansen
I wasn’t interested in the whole débarkle
It was his point about making up a false narrative to suit your position and how it effects others that I liked

Re: Why truth matters

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:42 pm
by BruceP
There's nothing stopping someone from making it up as they go along. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as they aren't presuming to teach others...

Re: Why truth matters

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:38 am
by Bao
Verbally transmitted stories always risk being changed according to telephone game effect. Everyone hearing a story might hearing it a little bit different and change it. Even people who experienced something first hand are at risk of memories changing, or maybe they are just not good at explaining things. Unless something is documented in writing, images or footage, we can't really know what is the exact truth.

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Our history is made up by the winners of the wars. The darker sides of our history is usually kept hidden. After all, we want to "feel" that we are better than we are.

– The wealth of the West was not created because we are smarter than any other "race". We enslaved people, killed millions and millions of people while loting their countries.

– The Japanese were already about to surrender, the bombs were completely unnecessary, didn't change the outcome of the war, and everyone in the White House knew this.

– After the WW2, everyone agreed about that the Russians defeated the nazis and the US had very little to do with the victory. This notion has been changed through decades of propaganda.

– That Saddam did hide away weapons of destruction was an intentional blatant lie. Likewise that Ghadaffi gave his soldiers viagra.

– The partition plan of Palestine never reached the security council thus the creation of Israel in Palestine was NOT approved by the UN or the International community.

– etc, ect, etc, etc ...

... What people "know" about history are mostly all made up lies and propaganda. Truth does NOT matter much in our society, not in the eyes of politics, teaching, parenthood, and so on. And the politician, media and history books just keep on lying and lying and lying.

No, truth is not important, it's the lies that keep a nation together.

Re: Why truth matters

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:21 am
by Trick
Ghaddafi, viagra !? Well, his personal guards were all female :-X

Re: Why truth matters

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:27 am
by origami_itto
The hard part is separating TRUTH from maya, ego, pride, and fear.

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