Follow up on upward fist in ba ji.
There is another one called wo li pao or inside the nest cannon.
you move your fist along the centerline and go all the way upward.
It is used to hit the chin etc.
they exist in old forms.
it is replaced by palm upward or wrist upward in newer forms.
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it is of interest that over time some moves are dropped and replaced with a different one but with the same purpose/utility.
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in old literature, you may find the names, but if nobody practice them anymore, over time, they will be lost with only names left behind.
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