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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:25 pm

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke
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Re: Trump Will be President

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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby oragami_itto on Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:36 am

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The way he spoke to CNN should scare the hell out of anyone with half a brain.

When Faux News is defending CNN you should take note.

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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby windwalker on Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:44 am

The way he spoke to CNN should scare the hell out of anyone with half a brain.


why?
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby Dmitri on Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:50 am

Sometimes I feel a little bit like a 6-year-old kid at the top of a roller-coaster ride, on which he didn't want to go in the first place, but his drunk parents took him anyway, so there he is at the tipping point, all strapped in and about to drop, and unable to do jack shit about it. It'll scar him for life and he will not be able to go on any rides after that, ever, and he will probably never forgive his parents' stupidity and their utter lack of care and responsibility.

Oh well... It is what it is, right. Take a deep breath and try to get amused at least a little in the process... :-X
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:04 am

windwalker wrote:
The way he spoke to CNN should scare the hell out of anyone with half a brain.


why?


Because historically, fascism always begins with discrediting and silencing of the press.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby windwalker on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:07 am

Dmitri wrote:Sometimes I feel a little bit like a 6-year-old kid at the top of a roller-coaster ride, on which he didn't want to go in the first place, but his drunk parents took him anyway, so there he is at the tipping point, all strapped in and about to drop, and unable to do jack shit about it. It'll scar him for life and he will not be able to go on any rides after that, ever, and he will probably never forgive his parents' stupidity and their utter lack of care and responsibility.

Oh well... It is what it is, right. Take a deep breath and try to get amused at least a little in the process... :-X


when you stop feeling like a little "kid" you might find your understanding grows and understand fear comes from within.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:13 am

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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:19 am

Trump Busted Using Empty Fake Folders As Conflict Of Interest Docs At Press Conference

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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby windwalker on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:19 am

Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:
windwalker wrote:
The way he spoke to CNN should scare the hell out of anyone with half a brain.


why?


Because historically, fascism always begins with discrediting and silencing of the press.


The mainstream press reports accurate information now?

Who decides who is the "fake" press...The main stream press?

Press conferences are held at the presidents convenience / there is also the print press.
What if he elects to hold it only for the print press not televised.

The CNN guy was a jerk, and "Trump" let him know.
He should thank "Trump" for helping him to
understand that he was a "jerk" at that time.

He did take questions from other CNN reporters who were not.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:23 am

POLITICS Trump’s Secretary of State Pick Just Lied Under Oath, And It Backfired Beautifully

ByLou ColagiovanniPosted on January 11, 2017

The Senate confirmation hearings are underway for President-elect Donald Trump’s cabinet picks. The former CEO of Exxon Mobil, one of the most profitable corporations in the history of the world, Rex Tillerson is already proving himself to be a liar and a fraud while under oath at his own confirmation hearing. One should expect nothing less from a Trump nominee.

Tillerson has been tapped to be the next Secretary of State, and he will likely become the nation’s next top diplomat. Given that Tillerson has a long history of doing business with the Russian government, he was grilled relentlessly about his association with the despot-run nation. Tillerson was also questioned about Trump’s close Russian ties and the presidential election being stolen due to Russia’s influence. In standard fare, Tillerson attempted to dodge and evade all relevant questions.

Tillerson was asked about his, and Exxon Mobil’s, history of lobbying against sanctions which were put in place against Russia by President Barack Obama’s administration in response to the Russian invasion of Crimea in 2014. Tillerson deftly responded, “I have never lobbied against sanctions. To my knowledge, Exxon never directly lobbied against sanctions.”

This whopper of a lie was so blatant that even the Republican in charge of the hearing Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) called Tillerson out. Corker said, “I think you called me at the time.” Tillerson said that was true but that he only called to understand “how the sanctions are going to be constructed.”

Without audio evidence of the telephone call it is impossible to prove what Tillerson asked, and without the ability to read his mind it is impossible to know why he was asking specific questions. Still, it makes little sense that the CEO of the biggest oil corporation in the world would be more than curious about how sanctions were going to be constructed. It is reasonable to believe Tillerson was probing for information on how to dismantle the sanctions. Yet believing something and proving something to be a stone fact are two entirely different beasts and Tillerson understands the clear distinction which is why he phrased his answer in such a way.

Tillerson’s testimony was directly contradicted by Politico’s reporting from last December, when they wrote:

ExxonMobil successfully lobbied against a bill that would have made it harder for the next president to lift sanctions against Russia, clearing the way for the oil giant to restart a program worth billions of dollars if Donald Trump eases those restrictions as president.

Given Tillerson’s under oath sworn testimony that “to my knowledge, Exxon never directly lobbied against sanctions” places him in a box. He was either an inept executive, at the top of the food chain of a corporation which generates billions of dollars a year in profit and didn’t know what his underlings were doing — or he’s a shameless liar. It is one or the other and this is by Tillerson’s doing. Neither proposition is flattering for a man who is seeking to represent the United States and its diplomatic affairs under Trump’s presidency.

But wait — there’s more.

Wall Street Journal reporter Byron Tau has dedicated himself to covering corporate lobbying, and he recently tweeted further evidence of Tillerson’s attempted deception:

Tau’s links to the various instances of Exxon Mobil’s lobbying efforts further incriminates Tillerson. Lying under oath, also known as perjury, is a felony which carries with it a possible sentence of 5 years in prison. This is clearly outlined in U.S. Code 1621 of Title 18 which says:

in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true;

is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

At this point it is not a question if Tillerson lied, but when he will be prosecuted for his lies. Under the law, Tillerson should be tried, and with the evidence presented, convicted for perjury. Trump ran his campaign with a main pillar being the rule of law and it is time he actually practices what he preached.

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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby windwalker on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:37 am

off topic FYI :-\

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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby Dmitri on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:51 am

windwalker wrote:when you stop feeling like a little "kid" you might find your understanding grows and understand fear comes from within.

you forgot to prefix that with "Confucius say:" ::)

Another one of those: completely missed point, followed by twisting whatever was being actually said into whatever meaning you wanted it to have, combined with some vaguely-relevant generic BS that is intended to appear helpful and intelligent. Good going man! :D
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:55 am

windwalker wrote:
The mainstream press reports accurate information now?

Who decides who is the "fake" press...The main stream press?

Press conferences are held at the presidents convenience / there is also the print press.
What if he elects to hold it only for the print press not televised.

The CNN guy was a jerk, and "Trump" let him know.
He should thank "Trump" for helping him to
understand that he was a "jerk" at that time.

He did take questions from other CNN reporters who were not.


There is a difference between bad reporting and the phenomenon of "fake news." You aren't directly addressing my point, you are evading.

What do you say to Trump Admitting that he thinks Russia did the hacking after finally sitting down with top intelligence officials?

PS I appreciate the Netflix scam warning. I shared it with my fiance.
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