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I am so advised. The anti-semitic, anti-Israeli bias of many posters on this thread is blatantly clear for all to see, even though often shrouded in moral indignation and self-righteousness!

The sky is falling...the sky falling...

They're criticizing Israel, they must be anti-semites.

Doc Stier wrote:I am so advised. The anti-semitic, anti-Israeli bias of many posters on this thread is blatantly clear for all to see, even though often shrouded in moral indignation and self-righteousness!

Oh good grief....

RobP2 wrote:Oh good grief....

My sentiments exactly regarding much of what has been posted on this thread!

It's a funny old world when Jewish people and Orthodoz Jews can be anti-semitic

Being critical of Israel is the same as being pro-Hamas and antisemitic. Can't you see that, Rob? Gosh!

Also, I don't appreciate your nuanced point about The Troubles. Please keep this discussion monochrome!

Just like I don't like taking part of religious discussions, I don't like participate in political discussions. Here, taking any side is just wrong. Taking any side, Palestine or Israel, is taking the side of leaders who are nothing but mass murderers. There is no good side, no bad side. There are only two sides with suffering people.

Interloper wrote:Hamas needs to stop using Palestinians as pawns and human shields.

This is a very interesting statement... Because this is exactly what Israel has been doing for many, many years = using their own people as pawns and human shields.

Doc Stier wrote:To sacrifice the lives and property of your own nation for the sake of any political priority is an evil agenda, imo.

Exactly. But both sides have the same agenda.

leifeng wrote:Israel has also put its people in danger because normally taking land from human beings results in hatred that can cause violent reactions.

Exactly.

For every kilometer of land Israel has taken over from Palestine and put their own people their, they have sacrificed the same people, their own people, as lambs for slaughter. Israel has always shown very little respect or caution for their own people, so when they say that the battle with Hamas is to protect their people, this is the peak of hypocrisy.

To be part of any battle, one must first be prepared to sacrifice the own people. This goes both ways.

Everything here, from both sides, is about protecting the power of a very few people = the leaders. There is really no Israel vs Palestine/Hamas conflict, there is no religious or cultures conflict. There is only two sides with utterly selfish leaders who don't care about the lives of people, and certainly not about religion, ethics or culture. The leaders of both sides are involved with mass murder, killing their own people for the sake of maintaining the battle with the other side. No side wants peace.

Doc Stier wrote:I am so advised. The anti-semitic, anti-Israeli bias of many posters on this thread is blatantly clear for all to see, even though often shrouded in moral indignation and self-righteousness!

Oh come on now!

That's no different than saying that if you disagree with Obama you must be racist.

Just as I object to the US carrying out drone strikes that kill innocent people I object to Israel shelling innocent people.

I support Israel's right to exist but that doesn't mean I can't question the way certain politicians are handling the current situation.

Why are Palestinians firing rockets and trying to dig tunnels out of their prison. Its beyond me. If I was in prison I would bow down to my captures and quietly die.

Shame on them for their disrespect to a superior power. They must be taught a lesson.

It wouldn't be a prison if Hamas and their extremist/fanatical allies didn't make it so. The borders could be open for free movement and trade, influxes of assistance, and goodwill from Israel, but terrorist factions have made it into a locked down prison.

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/gaza-the ... travelled/

RobP2 wrote:It's a funny old world when Jewish people and Orthodoz Jews can be anti-semitic

If that's the case then the people who authored and wrote the contents of the following site must be a bunch of "self-hating jews"

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

and I don't think you need to be american to read this.

Hamas bombs the border crossing while Israel is sending humanitarian aid supplies into Gaza, forcing the closure of the crossing. Nice way to deprive the Palestinian civilians and incite more despair and rage, Hamas.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=83 ... =2&theater

This just in about the Hamas connections of the terrorists who kidnapped the three Israeli teens, starting this current war:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinia ... -by-hamas/

Interloper wrote:Hamas bombs the border crossing while Israel is sending humanitarian aid supplies into Gaza, forcing the closure of the crossing. Nice way to deprive the Palestinian civilians and incite more despair and rage, Hamas.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=83 ... =2&theater

+1.

Interloper wrote:This just in about the Hamas connections of the terrorists who kidnapped the three Israeli teens, starting this current war:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinia ... -by-hamas/

And this about the "far-right Israelis" who burnt a 16 year old to death in revenge

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10951875/Three-confess-to-murdering-and-burning-Palestinian-boy-say-police.html

So now what? People should get off their high horses and recognise some basic facts, whatever side they are on - and also stop imagining that anyone else who comments on the situation even has a side