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Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby gzregorz on Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:17 pm

But Alex Jones would have us think otherwise.

http://www.christiantelegraph.com/issue9773.html
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby gzregorz on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:18 am

How is it that Americans have completely conditioned to hate Hugo Chavez?
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Steve James on Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:38 pm

gzregorz wrote:How is it that Americans have completely conditioned to hate Hugo Chavez?


It's easy to condition people to hate things they do not know. But, Chavez is a friend to Castro, and that makes him easy to vilify. It's just as easy to make people love people they don't know; that is, until it's necessary to make them hate that same person. Noriega, Pinochet, Saddam, the list is too long.
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby gzregorz on Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:45 pm

this looks like it could be interesting.
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby greytowhite on Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:45 pm

gzregorz wrote:How is it that Americans have completely conditioned to hate Hugo Chavez?


The big corporations hate his ass and have made it their mission to discredit him entirely.
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby yeniseri on Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:48 pm

When countries talk of being self sufficient meaning nationalization of their own resources, USA gets parannoid and that group paranoia coupled with corporate media can turn anyone against their own mother. Free trade was, is and never will be free! It was, is and always be propped by by the military industrial complex.

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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby gzregorz on Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:17 am

It looks like Oliver Stone's film is up on youtube too.

Pretty much covers exactly what we've been talking about. How the media can easily brainwash the US.

Despite one's politics, either for or against Chavez, I do think this is an interesting issue how a powerful country of over 300,000,000 can see a man who put an end to poverty in his country as one of the world's most evil men.

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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Michael on Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:14 am

Greg Palast wrote: I love Alex Jones. If I were a woman, I’d appear on his show in my highest heels and shortest mini-skirt.

Journalistically, Jones has iron balls.


Alex Jones, Guns, Piers Morgan and My Penis – Part One: Alex Jones Versus Downton Abbey

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http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/alex-jones-guns-piers-morgan-and-my-penis

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But not Jones’ audience. “This is complex,” Jones told me, “so we’ll give you a full hour to explain it.” Which is part of the reason Alex is such a hero in the US – he has the cojones to venture where the mainstream media fear to tread.
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Michael on Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:20 am

I think Palast's take on Jones is accurate, including the fact that Jones does not shy away from controversial topics or fail to devote sufficient time to cover them adequately. Jones is vastly more informative in a one-hour interview than 100 hours of mainstream news.
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Michael on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:25 am

Alex Jones, Guns, Piers Morgan and My Penis – Part Two: Weapon of Mass Distraction
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/alex-jones-guns-piers-morgan-and-my-penis-part-two

So Alex Jones says don’t “cling” to your guns, get them ready. With our jobs and freedoms swindled and swiped, he says, only the weapon in our hand saves us from naked tyranny. (At least Alex doesn’t peddle the NRA baloney that assault weapons are for “sport”.)

Certainly, Hitler paused rather than take on the weaponised Swiss in the Alps. And in Venezuela, after a group of oil company executives and media barons literally kidnapped the President, an armed citizenry rose up and restored their elected leader. Oddly, Jones said that Chavez took away the public’s guns. In fact, Alex, Chavez handed out thousands of rifles to “well-organised militias”, which guarantee Venezuela’s democracy against another violent corporate coup d’état. (See my film: The Assassination of Hugo Chavez.)

But America isn’t Switzerland and it sure as hell isn’t Venezuela. Because here in the US, as in Europe, the war against economic aristocrats and autocrats has already been lost. The occupation of Main Street by Wall Street is complete.

After all, Alex, in 2000, it was you who brought to America my BBC report that George W Bush had stolen the presidential election. Yet, no one picked up a gun to fight Bush’s corporate junta when they ransacked our treasuries and erased our Bill of Rights. Instead, Americans took up arms to march, at Bush’s command, into Iraq.

And that’s why, in the end, they’re not going to kick in your door and take your guns. They don’t need them. You’ve already surrendered your jobs to Mexico, your Social Security to the finance sharks and your Bill of Rights to the War on Terror, all without firing a shot.

So they’ll let you keep your rifle, your toy, your little rattle. You’re no threat to these guys. They know it and you know it.

Unless...

We take heed of the words of John F Kennedy that, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”

Want to end the slaughter? Let’s not debate gun control.

Let’s talk about a revolution.
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Michael on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:26 am

Hi Greg, Palast confirms what you said that Jones was wrong saying that Chavez took the guns, so there you go. Overall, a pretty good article, IMO.
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Steve James on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:54 am

Google Alex Jones and "race war."
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Michael on Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:10 am

That led me to an article on Infowars.com by Kurt Nimmo "Django: Race War Propaganda or Just Another Tarantino Bloodfest?", but not everyone's identical google searches get the same results. What did you get, or how's it strike you, or what do you think?
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Steve James on Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:39 am

Here's a copy of the page I get for just Alex Jones and race
Django: Race War Propaganda or Just Another Tarantino ... - Infowars
www.infowars.com/django-race-war-propag ... anot...Dec 5, 2012 – It is propaganda for a race war. The British Empire used the practice of divide and conquer to keep vassal states in crisis and realize order out ...
Obama Is Trying To Start A Race War: Exploiting Trayvon's Death ...
www.infowars.com/obama-is-trying-to-sta ... ploi...Mar 31, 2012 – Home · Alex Jones Radio Show · Listen Live · Listen Windows Media ... Obama Is Trying To Start A Race War: Exploiting Trayvon's Death ...
Leaked 'Machete' Script Confirms Race War Plot Alex Jones ...
www.infowars.com/leaked-machete-script- ... war-...May 13, 2010 – Alex Jones first put out a video warning about the potential of 'Machete' to kickstart a race war after he was warned by two Hispanic members of ...
Do the Media Want a Race War? Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war ...
www.infowars.com/do-the-media-want-a-race-war/CHIP WOOD New American April 8, 2012. It's no surprise that Al Sharpton and his fellow rabble-rouser, Jesse Jackson, are doing everything they can to stir ...
Alex Jones on Machete and Possible Race War.wmv - YouTube
► 8:03► 8:03
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsbIL352Nh0
May 16, 2010 - Uploaded by pickingoutnamessucks
Alex Jones on Machete and Possible Race War.wmv ... Obama Is Trying To Start A Race War: Exploiting ...
Alex Jones Show - Obama Is Trying To Start A Race War: Exploiting ...
► 5:35► 5:35
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzuJyod5KIk
Apr 1, 2012 - Uploaded by wannaberichlikeme
March 31st 2012 There can no longer be any doubt, the social engineers are trying to spark civil unrest as a ...
Racists Call for Blood Incite Race War- Alex Jones Infowars Nightly ...
► 6:57► 6:57
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Apr 11, 2012 - Uploaded by TheLibertydefined
Racists Call for Blood Incite Race War- Alex Jones Infowars Nightly News .... Race mixed people have a TOO ...
More videos for alex jones race war »
Prison Planet.com » Confirmed: Machete Is A Race War Epic
www.prisonplanet.com/machete-race-war-p ... er-t...Sep 4, 2010 – Comment from Alex Jones: Robert Rodriguez is a liar - when a script for ... that were highly offensive and could easily kick-start a race war.
Django: Race War Propaganda or Just Another Tarantino ... - Reddit
www.reddit.com/.../django_race_war_prop ... ..ShareDec 5, 2012 – Django: Race War Propaganda or Just Another Tarantino Bloodfest? Alex Jones' Infowars: They are out to kill whitey (infowars.com). submitted ...
Alex Jones Telling His Followers That Blacks Have Started A Race ...
community.allhiphop.com › ... › For The Grown & SexyApr 25, 2012 – I didn't put want to hear. I don't even know who this guy is so I have no interest one way or another. If you paid any attention at all he flat out ...


Afa what I think, the rhetoric is very familiar, real Turner Diaries stuff. It's also a much more familiar rationale for arming people. It is a much easier way to identify friend from foe, and makes "civil war" much more ... patriotic.
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Re: Hugo Chavez Passed Out The Guns

Postby Michael on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:08 am

You were right a few years ago about racism and its connection between Ron Paul and stormfront supporting his campaign, although I couldn't see it at the time. I need to think about this a while.
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