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Michael wrote: And if they don't like you, no matter how many licenses you have, they will shut you down.
Michael wrote:If I remember correctly, you were doing business in China with your cousin and weren't an English teacher. What I've seen is that very few English teachers learn more than basic Chinese, but most people doing other kinds of business get conversational in six months or less. Business people are usually skilled at getting to the essence of communication, while teachers tend to pick at the mistakes. LOL
Doc Stier wrote:Michael wrote: And if they don't like you, no matter how many licenses you have, they will shut you down.
And deservedly so, as well they should!
Dammit, Michael, what were you thinking anyway?
Michael wrote:Most foreigners I know who come from English-speaking countries to China in order to be English teachers learn little Chinese, even after being here ten years or more. It seems Africans, Spanish speakers, and Middle Easterners who are business people, not teachers, learn quite quickly. Some foreigners I know who are English teachers say the reason they don't learn is that they don't want to know what the locals are saying.
bailewen wrote:As an ESL teacher, there is no need. As a businessman, there is. As an English teacher, the vast majority of the people you know are "friends" with you primarily to improve their English. You have your students, many of which will honestly think of you as a friend, but who's entire reason for knowing you initially was to learn, improve or just practice their English. Your whole raison d'être in China is to provide an English resource.
As a businessman, that is not the case. You are there to do business. You are not interacting with a bunch of English students or "western culture groupies". You will be dealing with people who not only do not speak any significant amount of English, they haven't got the time or energy to learn any English beyond a couple of hip phrases they can use at parties to sound cool or educated much like American's in the 50's of a certain social stratum used to sprinkle their speech with French.
English teachers fail to learn Chines simply because they never bother to put in the time. They speak English with their students all day at work and the school provides translators or "assistants" to deal with your landlord or getting cable internet installed so there's never any real pressure to learn. I don't believe it's got anything do to with personalities or language talent whatsoever. ESL teachers just tend not to put in the time and they have no social pressure to learn.
Michael wrote:@ I-Mon: I tried that. Didn't work for me.