The Russians are coming.

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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Dajenarit on Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:04 pm

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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby wiesiek on Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:58 pm

Yup
Dajenarit,
as usual.

Yesterday somebody was shutting from Ukraine. Nothing happen, just bullet was removed from the house on the Polish side of the border...
just for the record, Daj, make note with this date.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Dajenarit on Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:02 pm

So is WW3 about to start.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby grzegorz on Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:55 pm

Dajenarit wrote:Image


Dude isn't going Ukraine because this isn't NATO's war, if it is NATO's war dude is going to Ukraine. We shall see...

Meanwhile, Russia is boycotting fruit from Poland in response to EU sanctions.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Michael on Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:08 pm

Globalization requires interdependence for food and energy, so the US insistence on sanctions against Russia might slow down globalization. I hope so. Perhaps the BRICS bank will gain popularity during such a time and also weaken IMF austerity.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby gzregorz on Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:37 pm

All sanctions do is hurt the poor.

If you want to stop globalization stop the Chinese from learning English.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Michael on Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:02 pm

LOL They are incapable of learning English, so I do think that's slowing it down a bit.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby grzegorz on Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:28 pm

Michael wrote:LOL They are incapable of learning English, so I do think that's slowing it down a bit.


Not if Dashan has his way.

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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Michael on Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:01 am

The kids born in the 90's don't even know who he is.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby wiesiek on Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:44 am

I was born in `56
and don`t have a clue either,
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Michael on Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:30 am

He is the only white person in the history of the past 5000 years of Chinese culture to ever learn how to speak Mandarin, if you believe such a thing is possible.

However, he still could not use chopsticks. I mean come on, some things are just unthinkable.
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Azer on Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:38 am

I see things haven’t been too busy here. I guess there hasn't been that much stuff going on other than Yats scampering off and new sanctions sans evidence, as has become the norm.

Firstly, Yats, and lets just remind ourselves what kind of classy guy he is:

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Certainly not the first time this sort of crap has happened, but you’d think a smart guy like Yats would at least know some history:

1914 was the first time that people of a supposed pro-Russian affiliation were rounded up and sent to concentration camps. The Austrians imprisoned Rusyns and Lemkos (a closely related sub-ethnic group) in Thalerhof because their self-identification was seen as treasonous. In the same manner, the self-identification of the people of Donbass is also being seen as treasonous, at least according to Ukraine’s Defense Minister Mikhail Koval. He was appointed to his position after his predecessor’s dismissal following the reunification of Russia and Crimea [3]. Koval’s extreme statement of intent for the people of Donbass also validates Russia’s prior concerns in March, elaborated upon in the White Book on human rights violations in Ukraine [4], that Crimea was facing an imminent humanitarian crisis before the reunification. If Crimea had not defended itself and reunified with Russia, now that the Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s post-crisis ‘resolution’ plans have been made public, it is very likely that its citizens would already be imprisoned in a special “filtration” camp of some sorts and forcibly moved out of their home region (if they survived the ordeal).

What Koval has proposed to do to the citizens of Donbass is completely illegal under international law and characterized as a crime against humanity. Forcible deporting and transferring a population, imprisoning them for no reason other than their address, and specifically targeting an ethnic and cultural group is explicitly forbidden under Article 7 of the Rome Statute. Perhaps because Yatsenyuk and others in his administration believe the protesters in the east to be “subhuman”, they do not feel that “human rights” apply to them. Accordingly, these “sub-humans” won’t have the right to their former property as well (due to the forcible resettlement), so it is likely that their homes and businesses will be the “free land” that Kiev has promised to its militant henchmen deployed in the east.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article184430.html


Not far behind of course we have this magnanimous lady , also spouting nazi crap like her domed (or should that be doomed) Ukrainian mook:



Speaking of Psaki, did anyone see this:



I guess the other boot flew off when she was goose stepping on her way to the comedy shows they call ‘state department press briefing’.


Meanwhile, on the evidence side… oh wait, there is no evidence, just more bullshit NATO claims and allegations. Looks like even their own ex-spooks don’t believe them, and of course why would they or anyone with half a brain:

As veteran intelligence analysts accustomed to waiting, except in emergency circumstances, for conclusive information before rushing to judgment, we believe that the charges against Russia should be rooted in solid, far more convincing evidence. And that goes in spades with respect to inflammatory incidents like the shoot-down of an airliner. We are also troubled by the amateurish manner in which fuzzy and flimsy evidence has been served up – some it via “social media.”

As intelligence professionals we are embarrassed by the unprofessional use of partial intelligence information. As Americans, we find ourselves hoping that, if you indeed have more conclusive evidence, you will find a way to make it public without further delay. In charging Russia with being directly or indirectly responsible, Secretary of State John Kerry has been particularly definitive. Not so the evidence. His statements seem premature and bear earmarks of an attempt to “poison the jury pool.”

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/ ... dence.html


How about that social media? Such as the stuff Greg posted earlier i.e. the talk between the rebels after allegedly downing MH17:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-1 ... ight-mh-17

There is of course also the vid of the BUK missile launcher traveling through Kiev controlled Ukraine to a Kiev controlled city, which was falsely presented as traveling towards the Russian border by the Kiev mooks.

This is also quite interesting:

The Ultimate Guide to the SA-11 Gadfly

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-bu ... dfly-10928


The site I pulled the above from, ‘The National Interest’, seems to be the only western publication which instead of spouting bullshit Russo-phobic propaganda, actually has some analysis going on, albeit it is a bit biased towards the US. As you can probably guess, I was rather shocked that in amongst the spineless lying MSM such a gem could exist and consequently I have ended up reading quite a few of their articles, I recommend folks have a look at these for starters:

Europe's Nightmare Coming True: America vs. Russia...Again

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/eur ... gain-10971

What Is at Stake in Ukraine

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/wha ... aine-10979

How Obama Is Driving Russia and China Together

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/how ... ther-10735

The Next Cuban Missile Crisis: The Showdown in Ukraine?

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-bu ... aine-10981

P.S. Posters in the comments sections of some of these articles have good info and points too, worth a look


Mind you, they can be a bit meaty if you’re not used to it, I’m thinking of you Wiesiek, it’s probably a bit much for you seeing as you seem to read right wing Polish tabloids which provide you with such bollocks as below. Can’t say I blame you, I also like to read the British right wing tabloids, but I think the difference is that I am reading them for a laugh, but you, well I’m not so sure. At least it keeps them in business hey.

wiesiek wrote:Putin`s "freedom fighters" are wearing Ukrainians army uniforms and shutting
civilians targets in Doniecks right now.
They using tanks with Ukrainians symbols freshly painted on... >:(

EU agree to work together with the sanctions, I heard yesterday,
Real bullshit .
Nuf to stop buying gas and minerals from the Russians
and Putin will call off his dogs at once!


I’m guessing this is the same source you got that crap about missing nuclear weapons from a couple of months back.

I assume your favourite tabloids don’t cover stuff like below, nor the UN civilian casualties (over 1,000 now) and refugee (over 200,000 now) figures as a result of Kiev’s attacks on civilians that I posted several pages back.

(Donetsk) – Unguided Grad rockets launched apparently by Ukrainian government forces and pro-government militias have killed at least 16 civilians and wounded many more in insurgent-controlled areas of Donetsk and its suburbs in at least four attacks between July 12 and 21, 2014, Human Rights Watch said today.

The use of indiscriminate rockets in populated areas violates international humanitarian law, or the laws of war, and may amount to war crimes.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/24/ukra ... -civilians


Maybe that’s why Yats ran off, I’m pretty sure the Chocolate King will also flee, but I think that will be in some time yet, likely after the winter if not during.

This is an interesting piece on the two as well, though I usually take Global Research stuff with a dose of salt:

Collapse of Ukraine Government: Prime Minister Yatsenyuk Resigns amidst Pressures Exerted by the IMF

http://www.globalresearch.ca/collapse-o ... mf/5393168


I’ve been reading this guy’s stuff recently, he seems quite credible judging by his past, though he also seem to be selling his book so perhaps he is a bit skewed in some sense. Anyway, if you have time and interest, have a look at the below, he basically talks about US plans for attacking Russia. Normally, I would say it’s crazy i.e. who would be stupid enough to do something like that, but I did a bit of digging and it seems that Russian military strategists have these concerns too. Specifically the newer version of the US missile defence using the SM-3 missiles which if in close monitoring/radar proximity can nullify a large amount of Russia ICBM’s and more conventional missiles, Russia does have ones which can overcome these defences but these are not so widespread (ICBM: RS-24 Yars, Conventional: 9K720 Iskander). What do you reckon, credible threat? Is NATO idiotic enough to try something like this?

Does Russia (And Humanity) Have A Future?

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07 ... g-roberts/

War Is Coming

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07 ... g-roberts/

The World Is Doomed By Western Insouciance

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07 ... g-roberts/

Washington Is Escalating the Orchestrated Ukrainian “Crisis” to War

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07 ... g-roberts/
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby Azer on Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:28 am

Looks like Yats may not be going anywhere after all:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... e-24768979

Shame...

Interesting viewing, didn't expect an Oz state funded channel to not tow the NATO propaganda line:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b5_1406679285

This is good too, just like the dude in the vid says, the lying British MSM was doing exactly that:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b94_1406035322
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby wiesiek on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:48 am

Dajenarit wrote:So is WW3 about to start.


not yet,
it was shot from Ukrainians border patrol training...
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Re: The Russians are coming.

Postby grzegorz on Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:04 am

Michael wrote:He is the only white person in the history of the past 5000 years of Chinese culture to ever learn how to speak Mandarin, if you believe such a thing is possible.

However, he still could not use chopsticks. I mean come on, some things are just unthinkable.


LOL! Yeah, the Chinese used to tell me that he was the first foreigner to master Chinese.

@W, he teaches Chinese to foreigners on CCTV9.

In his spare time he tortures members of Falun Gong.
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