The Russians are coming.

[Azer]

Hope that other galaxy is a bit more sane then this one!

Cheers!

[wiesiek]

no more than last minute news:
"freedom fighter" gets heavy weapon supply,
while the morons are still lookin` on white humanitarian snake

Great move Władimir Władimirowich! follow Sun tsu book

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[Dajenarit]

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[Azer]

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no more than last minute news:
"freedom fighter" gets heavy weapon supply,
while the morons are still lookin` on white humanitarian snake

Great move Władimir Władimirowich! follow Sun tsu book

There is so much nonsense in this.

- Convoy has been inspected, no weapons found
- NATO has been saying that weapons/manpower has been passing over Russia/Ukraine border unimpeded, if that's true, then the trojan horse idea is idiotic
- NATO says Russia must secure borders. When Russia has troops at border (i.e. securing them) NATO says Russian invasion imminent and should remove forces

So basically, what you have said is bullshit and the sources you are getting your information from are also bullshit. A lot of this crap is just common sense, it only requires minimal discernment to pick up on repeated contradictory statements. What really surprises me, is that people still insist on believing a source (NATO) that has been repeatedly shown to be untrustworthy and fabricated evidence on the world stage at the cost of millions of innocent lives.

[Michael]

Azer, I'm just impressed you could decrypt the post to begin with.

[Azer]

You and me both

[wiesiek]

Azer made my day

[Michael]

-woot- Azer made my day

Wiesik, I still luv yer.

[Azer]

Since there is a Western MSM black out going on in relation to Kiev's murderous campaign in East Ukraine, this might be an enlightening read for some, I'm thinking of you Wiesiek

Recent events in Missouri, Iraq, Gaza and, yes, even Hollywood, have emerged in quick succession over the past couple of weeks to provide Washington’s courtier press with a near perfect alibi for its rather marked unwillingness to report on the unfolding humanitarian crisis engulfing the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine.

The numbers, as they often do, help tell the tale. According to UN spokeswoman Cecile Pouilly, the number of fatalities in eastern Ukraine has doubled from 1,129 on July 26 to 2,086 over the past two weeks. According to what the UN has described as these “very conservative estimates,” 5,000 people have been wounded and there are now well over 110,000 internally displaced people (IDP’s) who have fled their homes, while Moscow reports that roughly 730,000 Ukrainian refugees have crossed the border into Russia.


By way of comparison, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights has reported that 1,948 Palestinians and sixty-six Israelis have been killed since Israel launched Operation Protective Edge on July 8, and yet one would be hard pressed to find any coverage of the mounting death toll in the Donbas on our puerile cable news outlets. And given the OSCE’s estimable on-the-ground reporting in Ukraine, the media’s collective decision to overlook the ongoing humanitarian crisis is all the more egregious. Take, for instance, this report from Donetsk by the OSCE’s Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) on August 7:

Two hundred meters from the high rise buildings [two residential high-rise buildings had been shelled in the city center], the SMM observed that all the windows on the second floor of a public hospital had been destroyed. On entering the hospital, the SMM observed that the entire second floor had been destroyed…with only rubble remaining. The SMM saw many evidently traumatized and crying civilians and medical staff.

On August 8, the SMM filed this from Luhansk, which had a prewar population approaching half a million people:

. . . the city was without electricity, water, and a mobile connection, and was being shelled practically non-stop from 4a, to 2am . . . drinking water and bread were almost impossible to buy and tap water was unpurified. The IDP’s also reported that people were burying bodies in gardens, since funeral service no longer operated . . . only people who were looking after bedridden relatives, or those without money, wished to stay in the city.

More evidence of the ensuing humanitarian crisis emerges in the SMM’s report of August 12 from the city of Pervomais’k, some 45 miles west of Luhansk:

10,000 of Pervomais’k’s 80,000 inhabitants remained in the town. The town, they said, was being shelled by both Ukrainian military forces and irregular armed forces groups. The result, they said, was that almost all apartment blocks in the town had sustained damage and only 30% of detached houses were intact. They said that 200 people had been killed in the town and more than 400 wounded since the shelling allegedly started on 22 July, with the dead being buried in courtyards.

The OSCE reports are also—not surprisingly—painting a picture of an increasingly polarized Ukrainian society. Reports of dueling pro and antigovernment protests in the eastern city of Kharkiv on August 10 put paid to the notion, tirelessly put forward by pro-Maidan mouthpieces, that Vladimir Putin has unwittingly ‘unified’ Ukraine as never before. The SMM report of August 12 notes that IDP’s from the east are facing discrimination in housing and other incidents of harassment from their Western compatriots. A director of a real estate concern in Kiev told the SMM that “many landlords in the capital city did not want to rent their apartments to IDP from Donbas for economic reasons and differences in mentality.” The result is that many IDP’s are living in temporary camps, which, according to the report, are ill equipped for the coming winter.

While the reaction of the American media to the OSCE reports has been to ignore them, the response by State Department automaton Marie Harf has been to dismiss them, all the while endeavoring to absolve Kiev of any responsibility whatsoever for the humanitarian crisis.

Consider this exchange at a State Department briefing on July 30:

QUESTION: Are you concerned at all that, as you have said with Israel, that they [Kiev] are not living up to their own high standards? Are you – do you have the same concerns in Ukraine, that the Ukrainian military is not doing enough to prevent civilian casualties?

Ms. Harf: Well, look, we are going to also hold them to their commitments on – particularly with – when we talk about exclusion zones, right, when we’ve talked about ceasefires, but also in protecting civilian casualties, we’ve seen them exercise extraordinary restraint in the face of incredible opposition from the Russians, and we’ll continue working with them. (emphasis added).

QUESTION: Okay, when you say the Ukrainians have a responsibility to protect their citizens in their own country, does that apply to all Ukrainians, all people in Ukrainian soil?

MS. HARF: What – I don’t understand the crux of your question.

Sadly, one can’t help but believe her.

Yet on the other hand, perhaps it’s more comfortable for her to feign ignorance than acknowledge what the State Department and U.S. intelligence agencies undoubtedly know: that ill-trained, far-right paramilitary forces have played a crucial role in the latter stages of Kiev’s military operation in the east. According to a report last week in The Telegraph, battalions that espouse neo-Nazi, white supremacist and anti-Semitic views with “several thousand men under their command” are acting as the tip of the spear in the Donbas campaign. One such battalion, the Azov, is said to have attracted fighters with similar neofascist views from as far afield as Ireland and Sweden.

Sunday’s talks in Berlin between the foreign ministers of Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany yielded little in the way of progress toward a cease-fire, much less toward any sort of negotiated settlement. Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces have again started shelling the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk, while the rebels reportedly shot down a Ukrainian fighter jet on Sunday. So while the crisis seems primed for a major escalation, the response from the American media and our ever-complacent Commander-in-Chief has been to simply turn a blind eye towards this rapidly unfolding catastrophe.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/ukr ... ?page=show

[wiesiek]

ok, reluctantly however....

when I use >>>useful fool< phrase,
U should know that it was in use between German establishment, when Hitler was about to gain the power.

- in shed of recent events - old joke come to my mind:
when Regan meets Breshniew , he asks: "tawarisch " why Russia has no democracy?
......but
you`re still beating afroamericans in the State....


Putin and his Kremlin's band has opinion of the democrats, compare to the gross of the Russian society .
Funny,
Recent events strangely reassembling 90 y.a.,+/_, like in the mirror , in the east side.

You opinion is , that "we" should split Ukrainian territory on the half , build the wall for the- jump over the war, into the 2nd Berlin wall at once?
fuck it !
nuke them all , we will think later.

Ukrainian has the right to build what they like without Putin`s "green light", that`s all,
but,
it was always Russian territory, like Crimea, You know...

truth, as the sage told me once - is ONE,
but
you should know, that
there
is also THE truth
and the 3rd one - shit no truth,- he finished .
~`cause we`re livin` on the planet earth, to make more fffun, all three happens at once,

[Michael]

There were certain moments while reading your post, Friend Wesley, that I felt as if I almost understood everything.

[wiesiek]

Knowledge and understanding are two way route,
we
have to travel constantly between those two, to gain core of the matter...

.../imperial march fade out in the background, while Yoda`s avatar diminishes in the mist/...

suddenly he appears again to add /with deep echoed reverb./
light and dark made uncountable variations of the shadows
din`t look at them mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. / echo slowly fading out, Yoda exploding like silent fireworks /
he jumps out from nowhere again
and shouting / no reverb. , just compressor, / -fuck it!-
- show him the right, punch the left!

cut

[Azer]

Wiesiek, I don't understand what you are trying to say. I leave you with a quote from a famous old dead man:

If language is not correct, then what is said is not what is meant; if what is said is not what is meant, then what must be done remains undone; if this remains undone, morals and art will deteriorate; if justice goes astray, the people will stand about in helpless confusion. Hence there must be no arbitrariness in what is said. This matters above everything.

[Michael]

Was that a Putin quote? He's just ex-KGb, don't listen.