Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

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Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby Steve James on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:53 am

Well, that was the original question I wanted. Somebody can probably find that clip with Limbaugh, but I ran into this one and just had to get some opinions on it.


It's just kinda funny, in some ways, and expected in others. It's interesting that he starts talking about black under-achievement and the well-orchestrated plan that has the first black president of the Harvard Law Review at its center. Hmmm, of course, ya gotta be real smart to run a plan like that. And, it's affected so many of those black kids, except those that enlisted and went to Iraq and got killed. Yep, the anit-American plan sure has worked.

But, this is what Powell said:


Anybody found a clip of that Limbaugh piece on Powell?
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby C-Hopkins on Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:14 pm

Of course he voted based on race!

If he didn't that would mean that Republicans are actually being judged for their huge immoral compass- which of course they can't be because they are entitled.

that is an impossibility.


Seriously, I think race played a decent factor, as Powell himself stated, BUT he's smart enough to accurately acess the situation, and make decisions accordingly.
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby Michael on Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:39 pm

I don't think it's based on race, it's based purely on the politics of winning, which uses race as a divisive issue, then as a guilt issue, to manipulate people.
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby meeks on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:49 pm

[sarcasm]yea about race. if a black guy votes for a black guy it's because of race. if a black guy votes for a white guy it's a well thought out decision... if a white guy votes for a black guy it's because of going against the grain or he's a commie[/sarcasm]
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby CaliG on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:22 pm

I don't think it's about race, it's about having a pair of balls.

It's interesting and sad to see how the conservatives are playing out this whole race thing. If a black man or women votes for a black man it's about race, but if a white man votes for a white man it's about politics.
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby count on Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:22 am

Clearly, Powell's endorsement is about making up for mistakes and doing the right thing. I'm sure Obama makes him proud of his race, and rightly so. But Powell is just speaking the truth and doing what's in the country's best interest. The thought of a Palin presidency is about the scariest political nightmare I've ever had. John McCain exposed his judgment here. He could have picked a Collin Powell for VP, but he picked the Hockey Mom instead.

He could have used his power in the senate to check Bush after Bush's robo calls about his "illegitimate, black baby" cost him the election in 2000. But instead he embraced W, and kissed his ass for the last 8 years. Than he does the same type of Robocalling aginst Obama calling Obama a "muslim", "terrorist", and accusing him of socialist politics. Funny, it was his party that let our country fail to socialism on their watch. And the RNC has the nerve to base their campaign on the party that will protect us from terrorism and socialism. Ironic? Isn't it? I think the white guy speaks with a forked tongue.

Powell did the right thing and jumped ship after his term.

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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby Darth Rock&Roll on Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:47 am

Powell bailed when the republicans went neo-over the top-con.

He let himself out the door on the republicans at the end of W's first term. Which is demonstrative in and of itself of his disagreement with the policies and actions of the republicans.

I think race will only be on the minds of those who race is a big deal for. For the most part, America needs to stop capitulating on that and move forward. It gets tiring listening to these 1950's sentiments about black v white.

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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby Steve James on Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:54 am

Personally, I don't think Powell would have voted for McCain if his mother had been black.
I think that John Murtha has the biggest balls in the Senate for spitting it out and saying that there are white people who are voting against Obama because he's "mixed race" or "not white." This sentiment is obvious at the Palin rallies. It's amazing, not that it exists, but that people are so willing to show it. At the same time, it's much much better. It's much easier to fight obvious bigotry, and much less trying on the nerves than trying to explain it.

Here's what Colbert had to say about the Powell endorsement.
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby pujimeng on Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:13 am

Yes.
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby count on Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:26 am

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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby Michael on Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:40 am

It's just more divisive claptrap to distract us from the real issues.
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby C-Hopkins on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:28 am

I agree with you there Mike.

It's sad to see people devolve into such animalistic views as the ones expressed by the New (?) GOP stance on these issues.

The good thing that I'm enjoying about all this though is the positive sentiments expressed by som many as I'm beggining to believe that the evidence that younger generations have transcended race more and more. Not eveyone of course, but A LOT.

It gives me hope for a brighter future.
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby Michael on Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:18 am

I wasn't around any youngsters back in the USA, but the youngin's over here are definitely making me feel optimistic. If I can rely on Ron Paul for how things are in the US when he said that his message of freedom was readily accepted by Young Americans, then it may be that they are not buying the old crap. Sure hope so.
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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby Leimeng on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:52 pm

~ It was clearly about race and the desire to get back good with the pseudo elite of the black community.
~ What is really amazing is the hypocracy of the demofacist left regarding powell and race.
Remember Harry Belfonte a while back?
"There's and old saying. In the days lof slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and there were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's c ommitted to come into the house of the master."
How about the Concil on Black Internal Affairs which gave Colin Powel a 5 star rating for being "an official, government issue Uncle Tom."
~ The demo-facist party currently is and historically has been the party of racism and hatred.
~ Race politics have been one of the defining features of the demo-facist party since Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren.
~ If 86% of the white people in the USA voted for John McCain because of the colour of his skin, it would be considered racist. When 86% of the black people in the USA vote for Barry O, it is not considered racist.
~ Endorsements however very rarely have any significant impact on the political races and instead are usually just emotional jolts to those who have already made a selection previously.
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

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Re: Was the Powell Endorsement about Race?

Postby internalenthusiast on Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:37 pm

steve, i don't think his support was racially motivated. i haven't liked some of what powell has done in the past. but, i think his endorsement was very clearly stated. and i agree with what he said, in general. i think he's responding here as a "professional", which is his strong suit, i think.

i didn't like his initial support of bush and the war. but i do think he's a professional, and good at what he does. palin is just not qualified. and he is as qualified as anyone to make that judgment. there's been a lot of damage done, and i think he's trying to do the right thing. i don't think it's about race. i think it's about taking a look at where we are, and what needs to be done. and who's capable of doing it.

PS: i pretty much agree with count's post, above.

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