Police brutality?

[windwalker]

the video shows otherwise.

does it?

It doesn't show what is happening with her back to the camera before she turns.
There should be a report from the person on the other side of the glass as to what they saw.
The press couldn't question the other people there due to the case, but they publish something that is not really conclusive.

I think even the officers where surprised about how fast she went down, much of it probably due to her own momentum

The real question might be why did she turn?

[Ian C. Kuzushi]

The real question might be why did she turn?

Is it?

And oh hey, look, a story covered in the press about that police violence that doesn't have anything to do with race. What could the motivation be?

[Michael]

There are endless videos of police brutality and several very well written web sites that display them. The police, cities, states, etc., lose many lawsuits in these cases, but nothing much changes, so I'm beginning to think focusing here for anything but the fatal cases is not helping much. I think the problem has to be addressed at other levels. This case with Sheehan is bad, but there are much worse brutality cases against totally non-resisting women. Endless videos. First one that comes to mind was last year's LAPD when the two cops stopped a nurse for a traffic violation, body slammed her, then did a chest bump to celebrate their win. Endless.

[wiesiek]

They are good guys and chasing the evil, remember ?

Justice on the site, at once, they didn`t shoot her anyway...:
hey watch out,
....next time we will shoot you beaver!

My friend just returned from US. He was 70` refuge from the Poland,
now he is 2015 emigrant from Ammer-ku
/He was workin` in Florida marine security recently/

To much power `cause 7/11, is going to the police and special forces, so we growing "untouchables" cast.
funny,
..."don`t have problem? - create one , then come with the solution...,"
all big freedom thinkers may kiss your arse...

- his words
but
to be honest a little - police isn`t too nice, all over the world,
maybe British are still ok,? don`t know ,

[grzegorz]

the video shows otherwise.

does it?

It doesn't show what is happening with her back to the camera before she turns.
There should be a report from the person on the other side of the glass as to what they saw.
The press couldn't question the other people there due to the case, but they publish something that is not really conclusive.

I think even the officers where surprised about how fast she went down, much of it probably due to her own momentum

The real question might be why did she turn?

Yeah, drunken 90 pound models are a real threat and must be neutralized immediately with extreme prejudice.

[Taste of Death]

the video shows otherwise.

does it?

It doesn't show what is happening with her back to the camera before she turns.
There should be a report from the person on the other side of the glass as to what they saw.
The press couldn't question the other people there due to the case, but they publish something that is not really conclusive.

I think even the officers where surprised about how fast she went down, much of it probably due to her own momentum

The real question might be why did she turn?

Yeah, drunken 90 pound models are a real threat and must be neutralized immediately with extreme prejudice.

I certainly the officers had enough wanking material for years to come.

There is nothing cops hate more than loud drunks. Telling them to be quiet never works. But they clearly know how to shut them up. Slamming them face first into a hard floor is the preferred method. Ask anyone who has spent a night in the drunk tank. This is standard operating procedure.

[Steve James]

to be honest a little - police isn`t too nice, all over the world,

US police are certainly not the worst in the world. Go to Brazil or Mexico. Here, of course, we have the expectation (illusion) of fairness and honesty. And, we have the, ahem, "Bill of Rights." Otoh, the US has always been a police-state. We are not a nation where the police represent the community; rather, they represent the state. When that state is the local "State," it's more palatable than when it's the Federal Govt. Where the Federal "state" is concerned, in certain parts of this country, it's heroic to be an outlaw --specifically when it comes to A,T and F.

[Steve James]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-gnNfsG84


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6G4KC-FAw

http://web.archive.org/web/201210250153 ... stice.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knapp_Commission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mollen_Commission

[grzegorz]

Slamming may be standard operating procedure but lying about the incident on a police report isn't.

[Steve James]

but lying about the incident on a police report isn't.

There are those who'd disagree, and say that it's standard human operating procedure. I.e., "save your own ass" or "make whatever you do look as good as possible."

Btw,that's not an evil thing. If honesty were normal, it wouldn't be a virtue --and "bearing false witness" wouldn't be a sin.

[grzegorz]

Right, my point is the officer claimed he was being attacked but wasn't.

I think Vadaga made a good point that's impossible to weed out these officers. I know a lot of cops, both good and bad and it's obvious to me that bad cops still get through.

[windwalker]

Right, my point is the officer claimed he was being attacked but wasn't.

I think Vadaga made a good point that's impossible to weed out these officers. I know a lot of cops, both good and bad and it's obvious to me that bad cops still get through.

How do know he was not attacked?
The clip does not show what happened before she turned.

Notice the press is not reporting more on this story.

[windwalker]

All the time before she's brought into the station nothing happens and then they suddenly decide this is the best time to let her hit the ground. The people on the other side of the glass saw it go down. It would be good to read their report

[grzegorz]

Right, my point is the officer claimed he was being attacked but wasn't.

I think Vadaga made a good point that's impossible to weed out these officers. I know a lot of cops, both good and bad and it's obvious to me that bad cops still get through.

How do know he was not attacked?
The clip does not show what happened before she turned.

Notice the press is not reporting more on this story.

I don't rely on the press for my information so that doesn't matter.

Not to mention if the press kept the story going you would criticize that too.

But I know you ALWAYS side with the police so I don't see any point in wasting my time discussing this any further since I have a life.

We can discuss it more after the lawsuit if you'd prefer.

As a martial artist, which you are one of too, I see no justification for this use of force from everything I see in the video.

An interesting side note, is that I think I actually know the officer in the video but it's hard to tell and that's all I'm going to say on that being that this is the internet.

[windwalker]

Its not about me its what's shown
Questions that don't seem to be asked.

Like why at this time and not before. The clip only shows the back
She turned pretty fast . Faster then what they expected.
The lack of her weight could have been a factor
They may be used to handling heavier people.