USA: All Combat Roles Now Open to Women: Defense Secretary

[klonk]

Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/po ... .html?_r=0

“There will be no exceptions,” Mr. Carter said at a news conference. He added, “They’ll be allowed to drive tanks, fire mortars and lead infantry soldiers into combat. They’ll be able to serve as Army Rangers and Green Berets, Navy SEALs, Marine Corps infantry, Air Force parajumpers and everything else that was previously open only to men.”

[windwalker]

there is no study done that supports this.
nor is there any advantage to doing so.

We looked at this in what is called combat developments back in the 90s in making making manning requirements and human factors engineering in designing weapon systems.
The cost involved are not supported by any perceived advantage gained.
there is none.

Conservatives often stand accused these days of standing outside the "reality-based community." Yet liberals can be blinded by ideology, and nowhere is this more true than in the debate over women in combat.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ombat.html

[yeniseri]

In absolute, this is a mistake. On the relative reality, few women are adapted to the realm of small unit tactics and what goes along with training, physical conditioning, etc but they can surely follow the role of Israeli and Kurdish women in the protection of the nation.

[D_Glenn]

It's about time.




^^ Need to make some new patches though, I'm thinking... camo bikini clad woman.



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[Michael]

they can surely follow the role of Israeli and Kurdish women in the protection of the nation.

YPJ Kurdish units fight against ISIS. It is said they always save a bullet for themselves rather than be captured.

[windwalker]

As one female Marine told msnbc.com, "No one questions why there aren't any females in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. Olympic athletes are the elite of the elite. No one questions why the women compete against women and men against men.

Those are great sports and achievements. But lives and missions aren't on the line. In our world, if you move slower one day, you don't get bumped off the medal stand,
you could die or get someone else killed."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07 ... ne-officer

[windwalker]

In absolute, this is a mistake. On the relative reality, few women are adapted to the realm of small unit tactics and what goes along with training, physical conditioning, etc but they can surely follow the role of Israeli and Kurdish women in the protection of the nation.

its not the same
might want to check out why they do it and the type of unites they serve in.

instead of considering the implications of women taking up arms in an otherwise patriarchal society, especially against a group that proudly rapes and sells women as sex-slaves, even fashion magazines appropriate the life-or-death struggle of Kurdish women for their own purposes. While some reporters pick the most "attractive" fighters for interviews

it does not help Kurdish women to be glorified as enemies of ISIL, if their entire political struggle is not supported. Western media's white-washing of the Kurdish women's resistance sanitises a radical struggle in such a way as to suit the perceptions of a western audience. Rather than challenging the awkward fact that the movement that the vast majority of women fighting ISIL belong to is labelled as a terrorist organisation - by Turkey, the EU, and the US - they conveniently leave it out.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 27736.html

[Steve James]

Good or bad, they'll still be volunteers. I think we'll have to wait and see if the Army has an influx of female recruits. Since there are so many advocates of ground troops, we're gonna need replacements.

[wiesiek]

this is all bull...
Drones goinn` to take all "on line" positions,
Rommel and Patton included in additional software

S.F. - now we re talkin`

[yeniseri]

I just cannot visualize 13 female SF female team members at the Abbotabad complex in the capture and rendition of Osama Bn laden! Just me

[Ian C. Kuzushi]

I guess it's not surprising to see that some of the most racist posters are also sexist?

[Michael]

I just cannot visualize 13 female SF female team members at the Abbotabad complex in the capture and rendition of Osama Bn laden! Just me

Female special forces would have been (or would not have been) even more outraged when Osama #3 used (or did not use) his wife for a human shield while shooting (or not shooting) his Muslamic raygun at the co-ed SEALS while Obama watched (or did not watch) by remote feed in the war room, and who did (or did not) take pictures of his corpse before burial (or not burial) at sea, according to (or not according to) Muslamic burial at sea scripture.

Osamacide: Clubbed to death by SEALS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6O6sM2Shok

[windwalker]

it is odd how many agree with this more so for those not having been in the military.
there are "no" studies done that support it. There is for the most part no advantage to it.

[windwalker]

I guess it's not surprising to see that some of the most racist posters are also sexist?

Really "posters" wow how many?
you wouldnt be one would you?

dont agree with something and then use labels to stop it. typical
what happened to free speech and dialog.

Most who've been the military understand the drivers of this.
I'ts not the enlisted. The military doing what it does will do its best to carry it out,
but like most things what really happens is not what most people know about nor gets
reported.....its a bad policy being directed by those who've never served.

[Michael]

They're gonna let 'em in right before skynet activates just for the asterisk in the history books.