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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:22 am

Steve James wrote:
The interesting thing about it is that it was a Russian who lives here who figured it all out.


Russian hackers have also released some of Putin's stuff :)
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/26/now-r ... rker-side/

Methinks they'll be running scared. Oh, and it'll be blamed on HRC.


That's awesome!

Perhaps Cyber Junta will go after Trump and we can dig through all his campaign's email.
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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby Michael on Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:19 am

Samantha Bee travels to Moscow and talks to two masked Russian trolls who support Trump online. She never once asks them for whom they work, implying it's the Russian government. She shoulda axed'em.



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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:34 am

Here is an article trying to figure out how these trolls are funded. I am pretty sure they are discussing the same report I posted on the other Russians thread.

Basically trolls who used to say that Russia needs to save Ukraine from a nazi take over are all now pro-Trump Americans.


It looks like Russia hired internet trolls to pose as pro-Trump Americans

Natasha Bertrand Jul 27, 2016, 8:23 AM ET

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Russia's troll factories were, at one point, likely being paid by the Kremlin to spread pro-Trump propaganda on social media.

That is what freelance journalist Adrian Chen, now a staff writer at The New Yorker, discovered as he was researching Russia's "army of well-paid trolls" for an explosive New York Times Magazine exposé published in June 2015.

"A very interesting thing happened," Chen told Longform's Max Linsky in a podcast in December.

"I created this list of Russian trolls when I was researching. And I check on it once in a while, still. And a lot of them have turned into conservative accounts, like fake conservatives. I don't know what's going on, but they're all tweeting about Donald Trump and stuff," he said.

Linsky then asked Chen who he thought "was paying for that."

"I don't know," Chen replied. "I feel like it's some kind of really opaque strategy of electing Donald Trump to undermine the US or something. Like false-flag kind of thing. You know, that's how I started thinking about all this stuff after being in Russia."

In his research from St. Petersburg, Chen discovered that Russian internet trolls - paid by the Kremlin to spread false information on the internet - have been behind a number of "highly coordinated campaigns" to deceive the American public.

It's a brand of information warfare, known as "dezinformatsiya," that has been used by the Russians since at least the Cold War. The disinformation campaigns are only one "active measure" tool used by Russian intelligence to "sow discord among," and within, allies perceived hostile to Russia.

"An active measure is a time-honored KGB tactic for waging informational and psychological warfare," Michael Weiss, a senior editor at The Daily Beast and editor-in-chief of The Interpreter - an online magazine that translates and analyzes political, social, and economic events inside the Russian Federation - wrote on Tuesday.

He continued (emphasis added):

"It is designed, as retired KGB General Oleg Kalugin once defined it, 'to drive wedges in the Western community alliances of all sorts, particularly NATO, to sow discord among allies, to weaken the United States in the eyes of the people in Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America, and thus to prepare ground in case the war really occurs.' The most common subcategory of active measures is dezinformatsiya, or disinformation: feverish, if believable lies cooked up by Moscow Centre and planted in friendly media outlets to make democratic nations look sinister."
It is not surprising, then, that the Kremlin would pay internet trolls to pose as Trump supporters and build him up online. In fact, that would be the easy part.

From his interviews with former trolls employed by Russia, Chen gathered that the point of their jobs "was to weave propaganda seamlessly into what appeared to be the nonpolitical musings of an everyday person."

"Russia's information war might be thought of as the biggest trolling operation in history," Chen wrote. "And its target is nothing less than the utility of the Internet as a democratic space."

'The gift that keeps on giving'
From threats about pulling out of NATO to altering the GOP's policy on Ukraine - which has long called for arming Ukrainian soldiers against pro-Russia rebels - Trump is "the gift that keeps on giving" for Putin, Russian journalist Julia Ioffe noted in a piece for Politico.

"Life is still not great here," Ioffe reported from the small Russian city of Nizhny Tagil in June. "But it's a loyal place and support for Putin is high. In large part, it is because people-especially older people like [Russian citizen Felix] Kolsky-get their news from Kremlin-controlled TV. And Kremlin-controlled TV has been unequivocal about whom they want to win the U.S. presidential election: Donald Trump."

As such, the year-long hack of the DNC - discovered in mid-June and traced back to Russian military intelligence by the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike - would seem to be the archetypal "active measure" described by Weiss, adapted to modern technology to have maximum impact.

"The DNC hack and dump is what cyberwar looks like," Dave Aitel, a cybersecurity specialist, a former NSA employee, and founder of cybersecurity firm Immunity Inc., wrote for Ars Technica last week.

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That makes sense given Russia's partiality to weaponizing information - and the digital era's abundance of hackers for hire.

The leak of internal DNC email correspondences revealing a bias against Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders - by WikiLeaks, an organization founded by Russia Today contributor Julian Assange - has divided the American left and made the Republican Party look unified in comparison.

Trump's seemingly shady financial overtures to Russian oligarchs have since resurfaced, perhaps as evidence that the real-estate mogul or his top advisers may have had a hand in the hack that made his opponents look so bad.

As Ioffe noted in a later piece for Foreign Policy, however, Trump's own influence among high-level Russian figures may be overstated given the difficulty that he has had throughout his career in securing lucrative real-estate projects there.

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It seems, rather, that Trump is more useful to the Russians than they have ever been to him.

Even if - and it's becoming increasingly unlikely - Vladimir Putin and his intelligence apparatus had nothing to do with the DNC hack, that the mere suspicion has come to dominate American media is a huge propaganda boon for the former KGB operative.

"The very fact that we are discussing this and believing that Putin has the skill, inside knowledge, and wherewithal to field a candidate in an American presidential election and get him through the primaries to the nomination means we are imbuing him with the very power and importance he so craves," Ioffe wrote.

"All he wants is for America to see him as a worthy adversary. This week, we're giving that to him, and then some," she wrote.




Russian internet trolls were being hired to pose as pro-Trump Americans
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.busine ... oid-att-us
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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby windwalker on Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:33 am

Washington (CNN)The FBI has been conducting multiple investigations of alleged connections between Russia and Donald Trump, his presidential campaign or its backers. But none so far have yielded proof of criminal connections between the parties.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/ ... tigations/


the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave “a signal” to demonstrators working “with the support of the U.S. State Department” to undermine his power. “We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin declared.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/c ... z4Or0uSBOp
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Everyone knows the US state department would never interfere :o in another countries
internal affairs. ;)

At a conference in Lithuania, Clinton issued a biting statement saying that the Russian people “deserve to have their voices heard and their votes counted, and that means they deserve fair, free transparent elections and leaders who are accountable to them.” Some Obama officials felt the provocative statement went too far.

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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:24 am

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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:45 pm

The Daily Mail seems to have a lot of information on the Trump's Russian connections.

I don't know how accurate it is but anyone interested can find it.
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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:47 pm

The Russians are admitting to having contact with Trump before election day. Not many details but I am sure we will have more later.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/mo ... story.html
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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:58 pm

Told you so.
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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:02 am

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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:13 am

FBI director James Comey discusses Russia with Senate Intelligence Committee - Story | abcactionnews.com | Tampa Bay News, Weather, Sports, Things To Do | WFTS-TV

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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby Michael on Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:37 am

There's very little in the Washington Post article. Looks meaningless to me.
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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby grzegorz on Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:07 am

Tiillerson executes abrupt shakeup at State Department - CNNPolitics.com

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/17/politics/ ... index.html


Michael wrote:There's very little in the Washington Post article. Looks meaningless to me.


The FBI is investigating Trump how is that meaningless? He hasn't even been in office a month.
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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby Michael on Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:17 am

grzegorz wrote:
Michael wrote:There's very little in the Washington Post article. Looks meaningless to me.


The FBI is investigating Trump how is that meaningless? He hasn't even been in office a week.

There's nothing about that in the WaPo article.

January 20 - February 18 is more than a week.
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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby Steve James on Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:16 am

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Re: The Russians did it.

Postby Michael on Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:15 am

Four Dead Russian Diplomats in Three Months

http://theduran.com/4-dead-russian-diplomats-in-3-months/

I'd heard about Karlov in Turkey because it was an obvious assassination by a gunman, but the others are news to me.
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