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Hillary's Health

Postby Bill on Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:56 pm

Here is an excerpt from an article by an ex secret service agent. I hope you find it as interesting as I did.

I protected First Lady Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, and their family while I served in the Secret Service Uniform Division as an officer from 1991-2003.

By now, you have most likely seen the startling video of Hillary Clinton 'fainting.' Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton.
pneumonia or overheating are highly suspect excuses and I'll explain why.

My analysis is not partisan. I cared for and protected the Clintons for many years. It was my duty to guard Mrs. Clinton in the Secret Service and I was so close to the First Family that the Supreme Court subpoenaed me to testify on the details of Bill Clinton's late-term scandals.

These are the facts.

Watch Clinton's Secret Service's detail in the video. Their behavior is extremely professional and very telling. Each agent is to be commended.

At the beginning of the video, Hillary is with a protective detail of Secret Service agents, as well as two female staffers. One staffer stands very close at her back and another is shoulder-to-shoulder and arm-in-arm with Mrs. Clinton to give her balance and prop her up
Mrs. Clinton leans against a "ballard," the metal columns we use to stop incoming 5-ton vehicles, and "bicycle racks" (our nickname for the portable metal fences) to restrict pedestrian access to an area.Screen Shot 2016-09-12 at 4.00.33 PM

As the van pulls up, she has a rigid wavering posture. She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.

One agent gets the door, but no one moves to enter. The Secret Service doesn't like to wait--standing still in the eyes of the Service is waiting for an attack to happen. But the staffer can't move Mrs. Clinton. Anything that holds up a motorcade is extremely dangerous and anything that ties up a Secret Service agent's hands from drawing their pistol or intervening a threat is a hazard.

The female agent at the front of the van is scanning. She sees Mrs. Clinton odd behavior as well. The female agent begins backing up to the entrance of the van to shield both sight and anyone approaching--as is procedure. She keys her mic signaling that the van is about to move. The agent is to be commended for maintaining her blank expression.
The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton's arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and - this oddity is very telling - crosses between her and her exit (the van door).
As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton's armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.

Close examination of Mrs. Clinton's legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don't keep up and she falls forward again, yet they can't lift her too high as to risk smacking her head. Any Officer or protection agent knows the risk of that.
That is when all the other agents, especially this young jet-black haired one, convene to shield her from view completely. We call this "collapsing on" the protectee. They left in such a hurry to get her from the public view that her shoe--which she could not retain--was left behind.
After 9/11, Dick Cheney spoke of how his security detail, when moving him to a secure area, lifted him by his Secret Service issued un-snap-able belt, which is used to lift and move a protectee to where they wanted the person to go.

Hillary Clinton was not wearing this standard issue belt.

So what did we hear after? At first it was that she overheated and dehydrated. Now it's pneumonia. Before, videos of her similar spastic bizarre movement were blamed on allergies and other excuses. Clearly, the totality of her prior blood clots and deep vein thrombosis, along with her concussion and related broken elbow, tell a different story.

Here's what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter's apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before.

Her detail knew that there was something very wrong with her and they were prepared.

When I protected her, I witnessed her irate behavior and, frankly, I don't think anyone can operate with such uncontrollable fits of anger and not have it take a toll on a person's health--I think that's exactly what has resulted. I can't help but feel sorry for her detail, because I know from personal experience that they will bear the burden for as long as their mental and physical resilience will tolerate. I bet that night they got berated for letting this "leak," but it has nothing to do with their performance and everything to do with her character.

When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse's request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed. He was an average American and, while it was embarrassing for him in front of all those people, I was employed to protect and serve. All he had to do was be straight with me and all was well. I expect Hillary to do the same and I expect my media to do like I did, ask what's going on so we know how to respond.

She's putting herself, her party, and her Secret Service detail at risk. Her health is directly tied to the health of our country and we deserve treatment.
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby Steve James on Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:02 pm

Well, he could very well be right. She might die in office. And you or I could die tomorrow. If the fear is that she might die, then the same is true for everyone, and that's why there is succession of office. The question whether bad physical health would mean she's unfit to serve would sort of be countered with FDR or even Reagan after his shooting.

Now, if she were mentally unsound, that would be a more serious issue. ... Ok, I hear it coming. Why is mental health more important? Well, which would you prefer, a president who is ill sometimes or one who is loony.
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby aamc on Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:13 pm

As a slightly removed onlooker. This is how I read the statement:

Hi, I've a friend who has a friend that said he was in the super-secret service. I cannot of course corroborate it, because its all hush-hush and super-secret and he might have like people take him away in the night. You'll just have to take my word on my being there, because like I was. You've got no context around me, but I'm like a chill guy and like totally honest, and I'm so super - rational I don't have any biases, I tell it like it is. So looking at a video without any context and because like I'm super honest. Wooh, bad things. Like danger, okay bye!
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby Bill on Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:13 pm

I think someone needs a hug.
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby yeniseri on Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:27 pm

Pneumonia has now been upgraded to a Presidential disease despite evidence to the contrary!
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To make sure Hillary lives, all she has to do is make her VP a Mexican, an Arab or an African American and that will guarantee she will live long 8-)
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby windwalker on Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:03 am

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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby Mr_Wood on Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:47 am

She's clearly not well. Quite sad really.
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby Bill on Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:13 am

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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby chud on Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:34 pm

The agent makes an interesting point: her not being taken to a hospital. She has her own private medical team, and is recovering at home from what I have read.
The hospital thing reminds me of the private email server: she doesn't use any system that other people might have any access to; she has total control - completely insulated.
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby Steve James on Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:08 pm

completely insulated


Compared to whom?
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby Michael on Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:24 am

yeniseri wrote:To make sure Hillary lives, all she has to do is make her VP a Mexican, an Arab or an African American and that will guarantee she will live long 8-)

Quote of the week.
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby Dmitri on Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:54 am

"A lot of people are worried that Hillary Clinton isn't healthy enough to be president, and a lot of people are worried that Donald Trump is."
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby windwalker on Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:03 am

Dmitri wrote:"A lot of people are worried that Hillary Clinton isn't healthy enough to be president, and a lot of people are worried that Donald Trump is."
- Stephen Colbert


why worry, why not just vote
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby grzegorz on Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:51 am

Next Trump supporters will demand to see Hillary's birth certificate.
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Re: Hillary's Health

Postby Peacedog on Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:50 pm

Well it would confirm that she is the first undead or potentially robot American running for the presidency.
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