Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

[Michael]

It's calculated during the visa process and you receive a booklet with a big letter C, B or A on its face, sorta like the old booklets from around 2005, although people were hoping for ID cards that would be easy to carry around.

[Steve James]

What, y'all think there'll be less intrusion into electronic communications now, with an incoming administration that's totally against that kind of thing?

[windwalker]

It's calculated during the visa process and you receive a booklet with a big letter C, B or A on its face, sorta like the old booklets from around 2005, although people were hoping for ID cards that would be easy to carry around.

Can you elaborate a little more on this. I’ve never heard of it before
just interested in some of the details. I understand now they do have a visa good for
10yrs. One still has to make visa trips according to length of stay and type of visa.

I know when I was in China, one could not use free wify without a cell phone to
receive the code to use it. At some point I would expect the US to adopt the same type of
controls.

In the news depending on source , there’s a lot of talk about tech companies
starting to monitor and control content on some of the social media sites.

“Twitter’s CEO allegedly restricted Donald Trump’s use of paid advertising on the social media platform,
even though the company stock has plummeted by 77 percent since the beginning of 2013.”
http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... vertising/

[windwalker]

Counter point to some of the opinions posted:

Bannon also highlighted the diversity of views that were given a platform at Breitbart News, while also making it clear that both he and the site had “zero tolerance” for “racial and anti-Semitic” views.

He acknowledges that the site is “edgy” but insists it is “vibrant.” He offers his own definition of the alt-right movement and explains how he sees it fitting into Breitbart. “Our definition of the alt-right is younger people who are anti-globalists, very nationalist, terribly anti-establishment.”

But he says Breitbart is also a platform for “libertarians,” Zionists, “the conservative gay community,” “proponents of restrictions on gay marriage,” “economic nationalism” and “populism” and “the anti-establishment.” In other words, the site hosts many views. “We provide an outlet for 10 or 12 or 15 lines of thought—we set it up that way” and the alt-right is “a tiny part of that.” Yes, he concedes, the alt-right has “some racial and anti-Semitic overtones.” He makes clear he has zero tolerance for such views.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... tionalist/

[Steve James]

“Our definition of the alt-right is younger people who are anti-globalists, very nationalist, terribly anti-establishment.”...
Yes, he concedes, the alt-right has “some racial and anti-Semitic overtones.” He makes clear he has zero tolerance for such views.

That clarifies They just have a point of view.

[kenneth fish]

And here I thought that Trump was Putin's bitch.....

[windwalker]

If, generally, we’ve got elections that aren’t focused on issues and are full of fake news and false information and distractions, then the issue is not going to be what’s happening from the outside; the issue is going to be what are we doing for ourselves from the inside,”

Seems like there's a lot of that "fake" news going around.

[Steve James]

Tru or not or just not news?

WASHINGTON — By the time Richard B. Spencer, the leading ideologue of the alt-right movement and the final speaker of the night, rose to address a gathering of his followers on Saturday, the crowd was restless.

In 11 hours of speeches and panel discussions in a federal building named after Ronald Reagan a few blocks from the White House, a succession of speakers had laid out a harsh vision for the future, but had denounced violence and said that Hispanic citizens and black Americans had nothing to fear. Earlier in the day, Mr. Spencer himself had urged the group to start acting less like an underground organization and more like the establishment.

But now his tone changed as he began to tell the audience of more than 200 people, mostly young men, what they had been waiting to hear. He railed against Jews and, with a smile, quoted Nazi propaganda in the original German. America, he said, belonged to white people, whom he called the “children of the sun,” a race of conquerors and creators who had been marginalized but now, in the era of President-elect Donald J. Trump, were “awakening to their own identity.”

As he finished, several audience members had their arms outstretched in a Nazi salute. When Mr. Spencer, or perhaps another person standing near him at the front of the room — it was not clear who — shouted, “Heil the people! Heil victory,” the room shouted it back.

[Steve James]

“Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!”

That’s how Richard B. Spencer saluted more than 200 attendees on Saturday, gathered at the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C., for the annual conference of the National Policy Institute, which describes itself as “an independent organization dedicated to the heritage, identity, and future of people of European descent in the United States, and around the world.”

Spencer has popularized the term “alt-right” to describe the movement he leads. Spencer has said his dream is “a new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans,” and has called for “peaceful ethnic cleansing.”

[windwalker]

They implemented a 3 tier rating system for foreigners this month for their work visas: A, B and C. It's amazing.

Instead, their spokeswoman issued a statement, discounting persistent rumours that the organisation monitors users' social media activity when assessing their social credit.
Sesame Credit tracks "financial and consumption activities of our users, and materials published on social media platforms do not affect our users' personal Sesame Credit score," explained spokeswoman Miranda Shek.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-34592186


seems more like a combined credit rating, and rating scheme like yelp or any of
the other rating schemes used in the west.

"We repeatedly remind our customers that using Sesame Credit is voluntary," explains the matchmaking site's vice president, Zhuan Yirong.
"But people really care about trust and honesty. Alibaba's data can provide certain kind of proof. It's not 100% accurate, but at least it's one more filter for people to know each other better."

It's not voluntary?

Micheal wrote :In China they are implementing a social credit system that evaluates you by what you write online and whom your friends are and what they write. It's called the Sesame Credit system..

Is this true?

[grzegorz]

What the hell?

[windwalker]

Indeed, Bannon personally flew to London to hire Kassam for Breitbart, a website which has been accused, by some commentators, of pushing a racist, homophobic and misogynist agenda.

Speaking about the accusations against Bannon, he said, “I’ve worked for Steve for three years now…he flew out to London to hire me, a brown son of Muslim parents, to run his London bureau… we have just the most incredible and effortless diversity in Breitbart… these guys who set out to portray Steve Bannon as a white nationalist or a white supremacist, let me say this, if he’s a white supremacist, he’s the worst white supremacist in the world based on the diversity he’s put around him.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11 ... breitbart/

How do those who’ve made the accusations against him reconcile it with this accounting?

[Steve James]

He could marry someone of a different race or religion and still be one (White supremacist). Besides, Hitler had Jews working for him. Nothing new here. Look up Strom Thurmond.

Há, two weeks ago, there were denials that White supremacists existed. Then it was that they're the result of Obama or Clinton. Then they're just doing what everybody else does. But after the Nazis salutes, it's back to denial.

[origami_itto]

His game contains many tokens.

[windwalker]

His game contains many tokens.

If that's your picture you look white.
You must be a closet racist.

It’s the same logic you use by calling others tokens…