Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby origami_itto on Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:43 pm

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oragami_itto wrote:His game contains many tokens.


If that's your picture you look white.

You must be a closet racist.

It’s the same logic you use by calling others tokens…


On the contrary, I openly admit to racism in every sense of the term.

I reflexively trust people that look and act similar to me and will automatically give them the benefit of the doubt over people who don't look or act like me. That's racial and cultural bias and prejudice, aka racism (interpersonal).

Also, being white and middle class, I benefit from and actively participate in the past and present systematic disruption and destruction of the black community in the united states by default. That's also racism(institutional).

Acknowledging that is the first step towards actively working to identify how my racism affects my perspective in order to mitigate that influence and prevent it from affecting my actions.

The token specimens collected by the neo-nazis are simply there to serve as seeds for hasty generalizations like these in the common narrative. "They aren't anti-LGBT, they have milo", "He doesn't hate mexicans, he's eating a taco bowl."
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby windwalker on Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:01 pm

On the contrary, I openly admit to racism in every sense of the term.

I reflexively trust people that look and act similar to me and will automatically give them the benefit of the doubt over people who don't look or act like me. That's racial and cultural bias and prejudice, aka racism (interpersonal).

Also, being white and middle class, I benefit from and actively participate in the past and present systematic disruption and destruction of the black community in the united states by default. That's also racism(institutional). Acknowledging that is the first step towards actively working to identify how my racism affects my perspective in order to mitigate that influence and prevent it from affecting my actions. The token specimens collected by the neo-nazis are simply there to serve as seeds for hasty generalizations like these in the common narrative. "They aren't anti-LGBT, they have milo", "He doesn't hate mexicans, he's eating a taco bowl."


This is your narrative, if it helps you live a life its your life.
Tokens, specimens ? yep you may fit your use of the word.
My take is that many who like to use labels often would reject the labels if applied to them for doing the same actions
which they do......I like to think that most people have agency and take control of their lives.
To label them as tokens or specimens undermines this.

As far as what racism is the clip presents a different naritive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qgb9Davqo8&t=565s
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby grzegorz on Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:00 pm

Now he runs the national security council.
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby yeniseri on Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:14 pm

Like Hitler had his Gays and his Jews, Bannon's position is unlike his predecessors.
He has no experiences and everything he brings is against NSC vision just like the others Trump put in place to run agencies that they are against and they threatened to get rid of.

Senseless!
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby windwalker on Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:32 pm

yeniseri wrote:Like Hitler had his Gays and his Jews, Bannon's position is unlike his predecessors.
He has no experiences and everything he brings is against NSC vision just like the others Trump put in place to run agencies that they are against and they threatened to get rid of.



Senseless!


Not really if you think about it. They know exactly what needs to be changed and why.

your right he has no experience.

Mr. Stephen K. Bannon, also known as Steve, serves as the Executive Chairman of Breitbart News Network, LLC. Mr. Bannon serves as the Chief Executive Officer of American Vantage Media Corporation and Affinity Media. Mr. Bannon is a Partner of Societe Gererale, one of the largest talent management companies in the entertainment business. Mr. Bannon served as the Chief Executive Officer of American Vantage Media Corp., a wholly-owned subsidiary of American Vantage Companies, from May 1, 2004 to March 2005 and served as its President until March 2005. He served as the Chief Executive Officer and President of Genius Products, Inc. since February 2005. From January 2004 to April 2004, Mr. Bannon provided executive and management services to American Vantage as a Consultant. From April 2002 to December 2003, Mr. Bannon served as Head, Strategic Advisory Services for The Firm, a leading talent management company in the entertainment and media industries. Mr. Bannon served as a Managing Director and Head of media and entertainment investment banking at Jefferies & Company Inc., an institutional brokerage and investment bank for middle market growth companies, from July 2000 to April 2002. He served as Chief Executive Officer of Bannon & Co. Inc., an investment banking firm specializing in the entertainment, media and communications industries, from April 1990 to July 1998. Prior to this, he was employed by SG Cowan Securities Corporation from July 1998 to March 2000. Mr. Bannon has been the Chairman of Genius Products, Inc. since September 30, 2005 and is its Director since March 2005. He served as Chairman of Points International Ltd. from February 15, 2007 to November 2009. From December 1993 to October 1996, he served as First Look Media Inc.'s Chairman of the Board. Previously, he served as Co-Chairman of Genius Products Inc. until September 2005. Mr. Bannon served as Vice-Chairman of First Look Media Inc. from October 1996 to June 2000. He served as Director of Points International Ltd. since February 2007. He served as a Director of SinoFresh HealthCare Inc. from September, 2003 to March 12, 2007. He served as a Director of American Vantage Companies from May 2002 to March 2005 and was its Vice Chairman until March 2005. He served as a Trustee of American Academy of Dramatic Arts. He served as a Director of SARS Corporation since October 2007. He served as a Director of First Look Studios Inc.(also known as First Look Media Inc.) from December 1993 to February 2004. Mr. Bannon received his MBA from Harvard University. He received his undergraduate degree from Virginia Polytechnical Institutes College of Architecture and has a graduate degree in Government from Georgetown University. Mr. Bannon has a Masters of Arts from Georgetown University.

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stock ... d=10184476


Bannon was an officer in the United States Navy for seven years in the late 1970s and early 1980s, serving on the destroyer USS Paul F. Foster as a Surface Warfare Officer in the Pacific Fleet and stateside as a special assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations at the Pentagon.[33]
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After his military service, Bannon worked at Goldman Sachs as an investment banker in the Mergers and Acquisitions Department.[34] In 1990, Bannon and several colleagues from Goldman Sachs launched Bannon & Co., a boutique investment bank specializing in media. Through Bannon & Co., Bannon negotiated the sale of Castle Rock Entertainment to Ted Turner. As payment, Bannon & Co. accepted a financial stake in five television shows, including Seinfeld. Société Générale purchased Bannon & Co. in 1998.[3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby mrtoes on Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:54 pm

It is a fucking dystopian disaster of the highest order that is unfolding in front of us right now. If we didn't already have lots of internal flights and hotels booked in the US we would call off our trip. We are due to fly into Austin from Mexico in a month and I am pretty worried about our reception, even though we have the distinction of being white and European. Immigration were really shitty last time we visited (apparently they take exception to people having stamps/visas from Syria, Iran, Jordan, Turkmenistan etc) and I am NOT looking forward to the experience. I feel so sorry for all the refugees who aren't as lucky as we are whose lives have been pulled apart. I am stunned by what is happening in the US right now and I hope we do make it in to be reminded there are sane people there who didn't vote for this maniac.
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby windwalker on Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:36 pm

never liked the way immigration was set up in the US compared to other countries I've lived in and traveled to.

There were 325,000 people that came into this country over a 24 hour period from another country. 109 of them were stopped for additional screening.”
— White House press secretary Sean Spicer, press briefing,


I would say at this point if one can board a plane to fly here, there should be no problems other then the usual stuff at the port of entry.

I feel so sorry for all the refugees who aren't as lucky as we are whose lives have been pulled apart. I am stunned by what is happening in the US right now and I hope we do make it in to be reminded there are sane people there who didn't vote for this maniac.


Do you also feel sorry for the Cubans, don't know if the former President was a maniac or not...did you vote for him?

Obama Refused 91 Refugees – Sent Them Back to Cuba 2 Days Before Inauguration

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/worl ... .html?_r=0

whats up, something againts the Cubans, they don't rate?

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., accused critics of President Trump's immigration ban of hypocrisy, pointing out that few complained when former President Barack Obama ended the nation's asylum program for Cubans just days before leaving office.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/diaz- ... le/2613355

Just as he's leaving office,,,,nice 8-)
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby greytowhite on Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:00 pm

The Cubans don't rate because of changes in international relations and Obama's attempts to make good with the OAS.
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby willie on Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:55 pm

trump is just soooo cool.
Get on board with fixing America or YOUR FIRED, he would fire Obama too LOL!
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby grzegorz on Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:37 pm

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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby windwalker on Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:09 pm

is it true?

I emailed Bannon last week recalling our conversation, telling him that I planned to write about it and asking him if he wanted to comment on or correct my account of it. He responded:

“I don’t remember meeting you and don’t remember the conversation. And as u can tell from the past few days I am not doing media.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... inist.html
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby grzegorz on Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:16 am

Yes, it is most likely true. Considering all the lies this administration has told I have no reason to believe Trump/Bannon. Just like the wall they lied about which you and I will pay for.
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby grzegorz on Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:25 am

willie wrote:trump is just soooo cool.
Get on board with fixing America or YOUR FIRED, he would fire Obama too LOL!


You might want to consider that his first call as Commander in Chief was a failure. Give it time more will come out. I have heard a few things from my Navy connections.

What we can confirm already is that our men got overwhelmed, more civilians than combatants dead, including an 8 year old girl, one chopper lost, one dead Navy Seal and four injured. This might be acceptable in the Army but in the Navy this was complete disaster and Sean Spicer is finally and slowly starting to admit it.

U.S. military probing more possible civilian deaths in Yemen raid | Reuters
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15G5RX


Some say the assassination of the 8 year old American girl is a war crime (as they did when Obama killed the father and son by the way).

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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby windwalker on Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:22 am

U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

The Pentagon directed queries about the officials' characterization of the raid to U.S. Central Command, which pointed only to its statement on Wednesday.

"CENTCOM asks for operations we believe have a good chance for success and when we ask for authorization we certainly believe there is a chance of successful operations based on our planning," CENTCOM spokesman Colonel John Thomas said.


From the link,,
first condolences for all loss of life.


Most operations are approved and suggested by the military. In other words they ask the civil. leadership and make a case of why, how, what and risk involved.

"United States Central Command is recognized as a premier warfighting Combatant Command." http://www.centcom.mil/ABOUT-US/COMMAND-NARRATIVE/

The officials are not named or sourced. Team "Trump" is still using the same military that the last administration used before the election and only 2 weeks into this administration. If they were competent then, they should be competent now.

it would be hard to say what happened with out knowing a little more about the mission which is not likely as to whether the risk factor outweighed the importance of the mission.

The use of drones to me seems counter productive, while killing the targets it does little for information nor has it really proved to be a dis-incentive to others not to step up to vacant leadership positions and does not allow for the retrieval of information.
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Re: Steve Bannon and the election of Donald Trump

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:53 am

windwalker wrote:is it true?

I emailed Bannon last week recalling our conversation, telling him that I planned to write about it and asking him if he wanted to comment on or correct my account of it. He responded:

“I don’t remember meeting you and don’t remember the conversation. And as u can tell from the past few days I am not doing media.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... inist.html


Hmm, that's kinda like when I pointed out that you were the one bitching about life under Obama. You denied it. I proved it. You pretended like it didn't happen. Yup, post-truth America.

Windwalker tactics:

"It's not my opinion" (even though I keep posting people saying horrendous things)

"I didn't say that" (then doesn't respond when his own words are shown and prove he is a liar)

"I know you are but what am I!" (when called on his racist bs, he simply calls the person pointing out what everyone sees the same name)

Let's see, will he pull number three out again, or post some ridiculous video since he can't think for himself and gets all of his ideas from polemic hacks?
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