The End of Identity Liberalism

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The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby KEND on Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:17 am

I have read several articles in the same vein recently, this is the most coherent. In many cases people take the easy path in explaining Trump's success, racism, xenophobia etc , but this to my mind is creating a 'Star Wars' scenario, the good guy[or gal] bad guy plot , but gives very little idea of the underlying causes or any indication of what the Democrats can do to counter it, this analysis I feel brings us back to the roots of democracy. [Steve--I assume the writer is a fellow alumni, interested in your views on the article and the writer]

THE END OF IDENTITY LIBERALISM
By MARK LILLANOV. 18, 2016 NY Times
It is a truism that America has become a more diverse country. It is also a beautiful thing to watch. Visitors from other countries, particularly those having trouble incorporating different ethnic groups and faiths, are amazed that we manage to pull it off. Not perfectly, of course, but certainly better than any European or Asian nation today. It’s an extraordinary success story.
But how should this diversity shape our politics? The standard liberal answer for nearly a generation now has been that we should become aware of and “celebrate” our differences. Which is a splendid principle of moral pedagogy — but disastrous as a foundation for democratic politics in our ideological age. In recent years American liberalism has slipped into a kind of moral panic about racial, gender and sexual identity that has distorted liberalism’s message and prevented it from becoming a unifying force capable of governing.
One of the many lessons of the recent presidential election campaign and its repugnant outcome is that the age of identity liberalism must be brought to an end. Hillary Clinton was at her best and most uplifting when she spoke about American interests in world affairs and how they relate to our understanding of democracy. But when it came to life at home, she tended on the campaign trail to lose that large vision and slip into the rhetoric of diversity, calling out explicitly to African-American, Latino, L.G.B.T. and women voters at every stop. This was a strategic mistake. If you are going to mention groups in America, you had better mention all of them. If you don’t, those left out will notice and feel excluded. Which, as the data show, was exactly what happened with the white working class and those with strong religious convictions. Fully two-thirds of white voters without college degrees voted for Donald Trump, as did over 80 percent of white evangelicals.
The moral energy surrounding identity has, of course, had many good effects. Affirmative action has reshaped and improved corporate life. Black Lives Matter has delivered a wake-up call to every American with a conscience. Hollywood’s efforts to normalize homosexuality in our popular culture helped to normalize it in American families and public life.
Have you changed anything in your daily life since the election? For example, have you tried to understand opposing points of view, donated to a group, or contacted your member of Congress? Your answer may be included in a follow up post. But the fixation on diversity in our schools and in the press has produced a generation of liberals and progressives narcissistically unaware of conditions outside their self-defined groups, and indifferent to the task of reaching out to Americans in every walk of life. At a very young age our children are being encouraged to talk about their individual identities, even before they have them. By the time they reach college many assume that diversity discourse exhausts political discourse, and have shockingly little to say about such perennial questions as class, war, the economy and the common good. In large part this is because of high school history curriculums, which anachronistically project the identity politics of today back onto the past, creating a distorted picture of the major forces and individuals that shaped our country. (The achievements of women’s rights movements, for instance, were real and important, but you cannot understand them if you do not first understand the founding fathers’ achievement in establishing a system of government based on the guarantee of rights.)
When young people arrive at college they are encouraged to keep this focus on themselves by student groups, faculty members and also administrators whose full-time job is to deal with — and heighten the significance of — “diversity issues.” Fox News and other conservative media outlets make great sport of mocking the “campus craziness” that surrounds such issues, and more often than not they are right to. Which only plays into the hands of populist demagogues who want to delegitimize learning in the eyes of those who have never set foot on a campus. How to explain to the average voter the supposed moral urgency of giving college students the right to choose the designated gender pronouns to be used when addressing them? How not to laugh along with those voters at the story of a University of Michigan prankster who wrote in “His Majesty”?
This campus-diversity consciousness has over the years filtered into the liberal media, and not subtly. Affirmative action for women and minorities at America’s newspapers and broadcasters has been an extraordinary social achievement — and has even changed, quite literally, the face of right-wing media, as journalists like Megyn Kelly and Laura Ingraham have gained prominence. But it also appears to have encouraged the assumption, especially among younger journalists and editors, that simply by focusing on identity they have done their jobs.
Recently I performed a little experiment during a sabbatical in France: For a full year I read only European publications, not American ones. My thought was to try seeing the world as European readers did. But it was far more instructive to return home and realize how the lens of identity has transformed American reporting in recent years. How often, for example, the laziest story in American journalism — about the “first X to do Y” — is told and retold. Fascination with the identity drama has even affected foreign reporting, which is in distressingly short supply. However interesting it may be to read, say, about the fate of transgender people in Egypt, it contributes nothing to educating Americans about the powerful political and religious currents that will determine Egypt’s future, and indirectly, our own. No major news outlet in Europe would think of adopting such a focus.
But it is at the level of electoral politics that identity liberalism has failed most spectacularly, as we have just seen. National politics in healthy periods is not about “difference,” it is about commonality. And it will be dominated by whoever best captures Americans’ imaginations about our shared destiny. Ronald Reagan did that very skillfully, whatever one may think of his vision. So did Bill Clinton, who took a page from Reagan’s playbook. He seized the Democratic Party away from its identity-conscious wing, concentrated his energies on domestic programs that would benefit everyone (like national health insurance) and defined America’s role in the post-1989 world. By remaining in office for two terms, he was then able to accomplish much for different groups in the Democratic coalition. Identity politics, by contrast, is largely expressive, not persuasive. Which is why it never wins elections — but can lose them.
The media’s newfound, almost anthropological, interest in the angry white male reveals as much about the state of our liberalism as it does about this much maligned, and previously ignored, figure. A convenient liberal interpretation of the recent presidential election would have it that Mr. Trump won in large part because he managed to transform economic disadvantage into racial rage — the “whitelash” thesis. This is convenient because it sanctions a conviction of moral superiority and allows liberals to ignore what those voters said were their overriding concerns. It also encourages the fantasy that the Republican right is doomed to demographic extinction in the long run — which means liberals have only to wait for the country to fall into their laps. The surprisingly high percentage of the Latino vote that went to Mr. Trump should remind us that the longer ethnic groups are here in this country, the more politically diverse they become.
Finally, the whitelash thesis is convenient because it absolves liberals of not recognizing how their own obsession with diversity has encouraged white, rural, religious Americans to think of themselves as a disadvantaged group whose identity is being threatened or ignored. Such people are not actually reacting against the reality of our diverse America (they tend, after all, to live in homogeneous areas of the country). But they are reacting against the omnipresent rhetoric of identity, which is what they mean by “political correctness.” Liberals should bear in mind that the first identity movement in American politics was the Ku Klux Klan, which still exists. Those who play the identity game should be prepared to lose it.
We need a post-identity liberalism, and it should draw from the past successes of pre-identity liberalism. Such a liberalism would concentrate on widening its base by appealing to Americans as Americans and emphasizing the issues that affect a vast majority of them. It would speak to the nation as a nation of citizens who are in this together and must help one another. As for narrower issues that are highly charged symbolically and can drive potential allies away, especially those touching on sexuality and religion, such a liberalism would work quietly, sensitively and with a proper sense of scale. (To paraphrase Bernie Sanders, America is sick and tired of hearing about liberals’ damn bathrooms.)
Teachers committed to such a liberalism would refocus attention on their main political responsibility in a democracy: to form committed citizens aware of their system of government and the major forces and events in our history. A post-identity liberalism would also emphasize that democracy is not only about rights; it also confers duties on its citizens, such as the duties to keep informed and vote. A post-identity liberal press would begin educating itself about parts of the country that have been ignored, and about what matters there, especially religion. And it would take seriously its responsibility to educate Americans about the major forces shaping world politics, especially their historical dimension.
Some years ago I was invited to a union convention in Florida to speak on a panel about Franklin D. Roosevelt’s famous Four Freedoms speech of 1941. The hall was full of representatives from local chapters — men, women, blacks, whites, Latinos. We began by singing the national anthem, and then sat down to listen to a recording of Roosevelt’s speech. As I looked out into the crowd, and saw the array of different faces, I was struck by how focused they were on what they shared. And listening to Roosevelt’s stirring voice as he invoked the freedom of speech, the freedom of worship, the freedom from want and the freedom from fear — freedoms that Roosevelt demanded for “everyone in the world” — I was reminded of what the real foundations of modern American liberalism are.
Mark Lilla, a professor of the humanities at Columbia and a visiting scholar at the Russell Sage Foundation, is the author, most recently, of “The Shipwrecked Mind: On Political Reaction.”
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby windwalker on Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:38 am


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVlbyN-COTE

This touches a little bit on what I feel has / is happening in the US regarding the press and
whats called journalism in general.

20:20 a good accounting of what can happen and IMO has happened between
reporting by different groups.

44:48 he addresses an American reporter
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby Steve James on Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:27 pm

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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby chud on Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:14 pm

Interesting article.

KEND wrote:Some years ago I was invited to a union convention in Florida to speak on a panel about Franklin D. Roosevelt’s famous Four Freedoms speech of 1941. The hall was full of representatives from local chapters — men, women, blacks, whites, Latinos. We began by singing the national anthem, and then sat down to listen to a recording of Roosevelt’s speech. As I looked out into the crowd, and saw the array of different faces, I was struck by how focused they were on what they shared. And listening to Roosevelt’s stirring voice as he invoked the freedom of speech, the freedom of worship, the freedom from want and the freedom from fear — freedoms that Roosevelt demanded for “everyone in the world” — I was reminded of what the real foundations of modern American liberalism are.


That type of classical liberalism - which most of us can probably agree with - seems to be dead unfortunately - killed by the new identity liberalism.
I mentioned to a friend that liberalism now has jumped the shark (with all the campus breakdowns, safe spaces, etc). It is so ridiculous, it has become a caricature.
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby grzegorz on Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:52 pm

Conservatism has changed too. It isn't as if one person controls it all. Anymore than the right controls the alt right which is the direction the GOP is going today compare that to this.


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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby Steve James on Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:55 pm

I was reminded of what the real foundations of modern American liberalism are.


Btw, it was called "socialism." That's what Roosevelt's programs were called, not so long ago either.

Afa "identity liberalism," the idea is strange because the argument against it is based on identity politics. I.e., Clinton asked lgbts, Blacks, and Latinos to vote for her. That is argued to be her mistake because she did not identify Whites. But, Trump asked lgbts, Blacks and Latinos to vote for him. There were people holding signs that read so at his rallies. Now, I didn't see any Whites for Trump signs or, in fact, any Whites for Clinton signs.

Of course, during the campaign, it was clear that people saw Trump as the pro-White candidate. But, I'd say that had less to do with race than with his promise to assist working-class people in predominantly White areas. For ex., the idea of bringing back the coal industry. If the argument is that Clinton did not reach out to people in that situation, it's true. And, whether Trump will be able to revive those industries, and if so for how long, is yet to be determined.

My point is that the end of identity politics (liberal or conservative) cannot begin with an appeal to White identity. Historically, people have only demanded the rights of citizens, and afa identity, I care most about how American citizens are treated. That includes citizens of all religions and "races." That's what every President since Roosevelt has said, and seemed to be established principle.

If HRC had been elected, there'd be protests that focused on her sexual identity. No? In fact, I think that the anti-Clinton element was stronger than any other. I think that none of the racial stuff is new, and was much worse in my own lifetime anyway. Shucks, it's in the Constitution. Though, not that long ago, people were saying that it had changed. Personally, I know it has. It's just that the people who maintain those views feel freer to express them. It's a continuation of the identity politics, not an end or a beginning.

Btw, I think that poor
Americans
need health care and educations in the fields that we will need in the future.
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby Michael on Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:23 pm

Pres. Roosevelt had a Second Bill of Rights

  • Employment (right to work)
  • Food, clothing, and leisure by enough income to support them
  • Farmers' rights to a fair income
  • Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies
  • Housing
  • Medical care
  • Social security
  • Education
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby yeniseri on Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:16 pm

What has happened is a co-opting of labels, the intrinsic rise of alternative social media outlets/sources allowing for definitions having nothing to do with reality but because the lies are oft repeated, the "many" have come to believe the said lies and are even clueless in distinguishing their arse from a hole in the ground. (I stole part of this from my drill instructor (DI)

Just as Republicans have become Democrats and vice verse through this coopting of labels, the fuzzy lies have become, and taken on a role of their own not unlike the Fake News stories that permeated the present alternative media source. Keep in mind they have to piggyback off legitimate media to pimp their audience so it helps that the by lines are ridiculous where somehow, they come to believe it.
I do not like the terms anyway as they do not give a sense of reality and sincerity to the human conditon. As an example, being a conservative implies that gays should not be allowed to engage in commerce, they should be refused service, rot in hell etc whihc is against the very laws that made this USA a great country. It opposing view i.e. liberal, implies that whether you like gays or not, they must be given that respect as human being under the laws of the nation.

The manipulation of language plays out in these scenarios and it is easy to fall into the traps laid by those who are so stupid that people like Bannon wiggles his way into the Halls of this great nation coming in to destroy what made this nation great ;D .
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby Michael on Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:50 pm

yeniseri wrote:people like Bannon wiggles his way into the Halls of this great nation coming in to destroy what made this nation great ;D .


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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby KEND on Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:13 am

You are right to question 'trendy phrases' like Identity Liberalism, it has to be defined carefully or it could be an excuse for the right to excoriate liberalism as a whole. Liberalism and secularism are in my estimation are necessary for a civilized society. The point of the argument is that 'liberalism' has veered off course becoming the province of an elite who have created a philosophy akin to dogma, where 'political correctness' equates to 'blasphemy' and, rather than helping bring together people of different color, race and religion, has contributed to a perception of a divided nation. The, 'we [the college educated middle and upper class], know better than you [working class]' how to run your lives. This is not a new phenomenon, I was brought up in a society[UK 1950's] in which a Socialist government [driven by a Shavian manifesto, represented by tony benn] created a paternalistic mind set [see 'My Fair Lady].So politics becomes the province of the demagogue and zealot.

The manipulation of words was well understood by Charles Lutwidge Dodgson in Alice in Wonderland

It’s no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then.”

“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad."
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.”

“Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”

“Mad Hatter: “Why is a raven like a writing-desk?”
“Have you guessed the riddle yet?” the Hatter said, turning to Alice again.
“No, I give it up,” Alice replied: “What’s the answer?”
“I haven’t the slightest idea,” said the Hatter”

“If everybody minded their own business, the world would go around a great deal faster than it does.”


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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby windwalker on Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:43 am


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYPAdB-KzbM&t=1s

preview of things we seem to have missed, at least for
a little while.
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Re: The End of Identity Liberalism

Postby Steve James on Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:40 am

Well Ken, my point is that whatever people think of the term, identity politics has been imposed on me. It was not created to bring people together. As you say it's just an excuse used to enforce particular views under the pretense of being offended. Being female is an identity. Who is saying it shouldn't matter? Are anti-American protesters causing ore rapes? We're the Jews causing problems in Germany? Was that the reason for the Nazis rise? At any rate, I know that most of those who argue against the identity politics are perfectly willing to elevate their own and beat others over the head with it as soon as they have the chance.
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